Superman vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by batdude123
Your lack of Superman knowledge is becoming obvious. Superman, on many occasions has shown to be a highly trained and skilled fighter. More so than Adam by quite a bit.

Indeed he is faster. In combat speed and travel speed. He has a lot more impressive combat speed feats than Adam.

Along with intangibility, invisibility, T-Vo, sonic whistle, all kinds of vision powers... not to mention a variety of odd/unusual effects Superman can achieve with a little creative usage of his power set.

As is your biased.

On an average basis, Superman isn't depicted as having a high level of skill. He's depicted as a brawler, right along with the majority of top tiers.

Combat wise he isn't faster.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Black%20Adam%20Feats/06-11.jpg

Quality over quantity, and I know Superman has similar feats. He just doesn't have speed feats that are going to place him above that level of speed.

To be intangible you really just have to move really fast, the rest is irrelevant as Superman has rarely if ever used them in battle. Yeah T-vo, but against WW? No.

Originally posted by Val
Adam is more aggressive than Billy. I would imagine he hits harder and he might be the better fighter too but I would hardly consider any of that evidence of being overall more powerful. It's not as if CM didn't lay it on Adam a few times himself.

Originally posted by Larceny
As is your biased.

On an average basis, Superman isn't depicted as having a high level of skill. He's depicted as a brawler, right along with the majority of top tiers.

Combat wise he isn't faster.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Black%20Adam%20Feats/06-11.jpg

Quality over quantity, and I know Superman has similar feats. He just doesn't have speed feats that are going to place him above that level of speed.

To be intangible you really just have to move really fast, the rest is irrelevant as Superman has rarely if ever used them in battle. Yeah T-vo, but against WW? No.

Though I agree that I doubt Superman's combat speed is anything that's going to completely overwhelm Adam, though it may be enough to give him an advantage.

Originally posted by Juntai
Tough to say exactly how fast Jay is moving in that scan, we know anything beyond sound however was Jay's use of the speedforce, because of the manner in which he was limited without the speed forces existance when it went into Bart.

On another note... a couple days ago I heard someone say Captain Marvel was wrecking a team with WW on it, and they said the issue, and I forgot to check into that. Does anyone know anything about this, that could help?

Originally posted by Juntai
Fair enough, usually he has to think his way around Adam however, while Adam has all the physical prowess.
I can't even recall the last time CM had a definitive match over Adam, that's how long it's probably been, while we have lots of evidence the other way.

I pretty much agree with this. I don't necessarily believe Adam is stronger than Batson, but through aggression and skill is more physically dominate.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Around that time... or around that art (I guess), Jay had a race with BA where he was going lightspeed, and then went a little faster and entered the speedforce... ermm

On another note... a couple days ago I heard someone say Captain Marvel was wrecking a team with WW on it, and they said the issue, and I forgot to check into that. Does anyone know anything about this, that could help?

That race was way back in JSA #21, the fight was in JSA#6.

I wanna see that.....

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Around that time... or around that art (I guess), Jay had a race with BA where he was going lightspeed, and then went a little faster and entered the speedforce... ermm

On another note... a couple days ago I heard someone say Captain Marvel was wrecking a team with WW on it, and they said the issue, and I forgot to check into that. Does anyone know anything about this, that could help?

Originally posted by Juntai
Tough to say exactly how fast Jay is moving in that scan, we know anything beyond sound however was Jay's use of the speedforce, because of the manner in which he was limited without the speed forces existance when it went into Bart.

Though I agree that I doubt Superman's combat speed is anything that's going to completely overwhelm Adam, though it may be enough to give him an advantage.

He's in the speedforce, and that's pretty much all you need to know. 😬

I don't see his combat speed being an advantage at all.

Originally posted by Larceny
That race was way back in JSA #21, the fight was in JSA#6.

Originally posted by Juntai
They were racing near lightspeed, and Jay stole Teth's speed to go even faster, I recall the issue. That however is not full on combat speed as the panel above was.

That's what happened, right around light speed Teth stumbled.

Originally posted by Juntai
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Originally posted by Juntai
They were racing near lightspeed, and Jay stole Teth's speed to go even faster, I recall the issue. That however is not full on combat speed as the panel above was.

Just saying that he was above the speed of sound once, and had to go faster to reach the SF.

Originally posted by Larceny
That race was way back in JSA #21, the fight was in JSA#6.

I wanna see that.....

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Nah. They (or Jay) reached lightspeed... BA stumbled, and then Jay stole his velocity, and reached the SF.

Just saying that he was above the speed of sound once, and had to go faster to reach the SF.

Notice how Adam isn't far behind as he reaches light speed.

Nothing is contradictory to my previous post.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Ah, that's the one where BA had a brain tumor...

Yeah. It was the reason he attacked the JLA.

Originally posted by Juntai
http://img7.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=eb1fd_flash4.jpg
http://img144.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc24&image=cfd2f_flash5.jpg

Notice how Adam isn't far behind as he reaches light speed.

Nothing is contradictory to my previous post.

I was talking about Jay reaching over lightspeed to hit the SF once. As you were talking about it being sound...

Now I'm just plain confused about what we're talking about...

I wanna new sig. 🙁

There was an issue where Wally got a spell casted on him to where he couldn't stop running and Superman and Garrick were chasing after him... Garrick ended up having to steal Superman's speed to catch Wally, but the thing to note is that, after a few panels of running with Garrick, Adam was fading farther and farther back, the same wasn't true with Superman.

Originally posted by Larceny
I wanna new sig. 🙁

Originally posted by Juntai
There was an issue where Wally got a spell casted on him to where he couldn't stop running and Superman and Garrick were chasing after him... Garrick ended up having to steal Superman's speed to catch Wally, but the thing to note is that, after a few panels of running with Garrick, Adam was fading farther and farther back, the same wasn't true with Superman.

Did it tell how fast they were going?

I mean, you got to factor these things in. 😬