Sam Fisher vs Solid Snake

And lets not forget: Sam Fisher knows Omega Punch Strike 😄

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look at what sam has gone up against, then compare it to what SNAKE {and big boss} have gone up against. no comparison, snake shudnt be in the HUMAN range, he will rip fisher a new one.

The question is not who one has gone up against.

Spyro the dragon has gone up against mighty black magiciants and Sam Fisher has only fought other humans. That does not mean he can not beat Spyro simply because he has never fought a mighty black magiciant.

Basing an argument on which foes that has been encountered is unprofessional and vague. There is nothing that says Sam Fisher could not pull trough what Snake has pulled trough.

^simply untrue. you can VERY well judge the strength of characters by the foes they have defeated. snake BLOWS fisher out of the water. fisher has nuthing on snake.

and ur delusional if you think that SAM FISHER can beat spyro. spyro will one shot kill him and all the characters in his tiny world.

I simply brought up the first example I could think of and even though I think he would beat Spyro, I will debate that here. I could very well have picked Super Mario and a mushroom. Sam Fisher has never fought a mushroom and you can not judge the outcome of Sam Fisher Vs. Mario on a mushroom battle.

How do you judge it trough that? What has Snake shown in those battles that put him so much higher up on the ladder than Sam? Has he survived a bullet to the head? If he has, then Snake could very well win this.

Because from the view I see it, this battle is judged by ONE bullet. As far as I am aware, Sam is better than Snake at stealth, which gives him that advantage. He is also a very acrobatic person, which gives him another asset.

Snake is gonna pwn all the people in Suber Smash Bros Brawl.
Snake has faced way worse then Sam. Big Boss alone has faced: The Dead, A guy who controls a swarm of hornets, A guy who shoots lightning out of his fingers, a giant nuclear IRBM launching tank. The grandfather of sniping and was tortured, and left in a highsecurity building with nothing and escaped.

Originally posted by Furion
Snake is gonna pwn all the people in Suber Smash Bros Brawl.
Snake has faced way worse then Sam. Big Boss alone has faced: The Dead, A guy who controls a swarm of hornets, A guy who shoots lightning out of his fingers, a giant nuclear IRBM launching tank. The grandfather of sniping and was tortured, and left in a highsecurity building with nothing and escaped.

You have not read anything I have said, have you? 😛

As for the last part, so has Sam

It just shows that Snake has taken down worse then Sam and would take him down about 7/10

He has taken down worse, yes indeed. However, what makes you so sure Sam could not take down the same targets? It is a blind claim to say Snake beats Sam, just because Snake has fought tougher enemies than Sam.

A parrot killed Jafar. I guess that makes him able to kill Sam and Snake blindfolded, since Jafar is far mightier than anything Sam and Snake has ever fought (Combined and everything at once).

Originally posted by Lady Fox
He has taken down worse, yes indeed. However, what makes you so sure Sam could not take down the same targets? It is a blind claim to say Snake beats Sam, just because Snake has fought tougher enemies than Sam.

A parrot killed Jafar. I guess that makes him able to kill Sam and Snake blindfolded, since Jafar is far mightier than anything Sam and Snake has ever fought (Combined and everything at once).

It does not matter who he has killed. You all bring that specific point up:
"He has killed him. He has killed him. He has killed her. He has killed that"

Unless he killed them all with skills superior to Sam Fisher, I do not consider those victories proof enough.

The Boss is pretty much Superior to Sam Fisher in everyway cept maybe stealth.
She owned Big Boss throughout the game in CQC and that's like the best martial art. Big Boss beat The Boss at the end of the game through supposably CQC. Even Colonol Volgin doesn't Fvuk with The Boss.

"Except stealth"

The most important point. Sam Fisher is good in every area that modern warfar require. His absolute best area is stealth.

How will Snake fight something he can not see?

But that's the primary reason why Snake defeated her. Stealth. Plus we don't know for sure if The Boss is good at Stealth or not since it doesn't really talk about her skills. Big Boss was everything The Boss was and more and got cloned and his clones are basically as good as him. Fisher is good, but Snake is better.

"Snake is better" You are basing this on.... what exactly? And do not bring up names of people he has killed.

Who Snake?
Big Boss included: The Fury, The Pain, The Fear, The End, The Sorrow, The Joy/The Boss, Volgin. I forget the others Snake has killed. He killed Big Boss in MG2 so that's a big thing. He defeated his clone Liquid Snake in combat.

Sigh

Originally posted by Lady Fox
Because from the view I see it, this battle is judged by ONE bullet. As far as I am aware, Sam is better than Snake at stealth, which gives him that advantage. He is also a very acrobatic person, which gives him another asset.

Have you NOT seen Solid Snake in MGS1? Almost every cutscene has him performing some form of acrobatics with agility and reflexes almost tapping through peak human capabilities. He also more than once dodged multiple bullets like the Matrix, once nearly at point-blank range IIRC. In the agility department, Snake is lightyears ahead of Fisher.

As for stealth, they're at least equal. I only say equal because Snake's stealth camoflauge is known to malfunction, but even then he's used his stealth to am uch more versatile extent in and out of gameplay. Solid Snake vs. Sam Fisher in their prime is basically pitting a hungry python and a beached goldfish (respectively) against eachother.

It does not matter how agile it is. He has not survived a bullet in the head. Neither of the two has. This is a one-shot kill. The one who sees the other one first wins. Simple as that, I would at top say 50/50. Otherwise 70/30 to Sam, since he is a better stealth agent. Although, the 50/50 is because if Sam slips, Snake is better equiped.