why were we created

Started by Deja~vu5 pages

You mean we're all part of the joke? 🙁

Originally posted by Deja~vu
You mean we're all part of the joke? 🙁

Yes. God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh.

Actually, we may be more like a vaudeville act.

😂

Or Marionettes if you believe in Calvinism.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
a perfect being like a god wud not need to create anythign outside itself. unless it was incomplete and hence not perfect.

What is perfection?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
What is perfection?

At the quantum level, everything is in a state of change. How can something perfect constantly change? There is only one thing that is perfect and does not change; that is Nothingness.

* the Father created us because of His love and for His Son... They wanted all of us to be with Them in paradise...

Originally posted by peejayd
* the Father created us because of His love and for His Son... They wanted all of us to be with Them in paradise...

Where is paradise? I know where it is; it's hear, and now. Can you tell me were you think paradise is?

* the heaven where the Father and Christ is...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
At the quantum level, everything is in a state of change. How can something perfect constantly change? There is only one thing that is perfect and does not change; that is Nothingness.

Perhaps change is an expression of perfection.

Originally posted by peejayd
* the heaven where the Father and Christ is...

So where is he?

And don't say "heaven" ermm

j/k

The short answer to the question “why did God create us?” is “for His pleasure.” Revelation 4:11 says, “Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created.” Colossians 1:16 reiterates the point: “All things were created by Him and for Him.”

Being made in the image and likeness of God (Genesis 1:27), human beings have the ability to know God—and therefore love Him, worship Him, serve Him, and fellowship with Him. God did not create human beings because He needed them. As God, He needs nothing. In all eternity past, He felt no loneliness, so He was not looking for a “friend.” He loves us, but this is not the same as needing us. If we had never existed, God would still be God—the Unchanging One (Malachi 3:6).

The I AM THAT I AM (Exodus 3:14) was never dissatisfied with His own eternal existence. When He made the universe, He did what pleased Him, and since God is perfect, His action was perfect. “It was very good” (Genesis 1:31).

Also, God did not create “peers” or beings equal to Himself. Logically, He could not do so. If God were to create another being of equal power, intelligence, and perfection, then He would cease to be the One True God for the simple reason that there would be two gods—and that would be an impossibility. “The Lord He is God; there is none else beside Him” (Deuteronomy 4:35). Anything that God creates must of necessity be lesser than He. The thing made can never be greater than the One who made it.

Recognizing the complete sovereignty and holiness of God, we are amazed that He would take man and “crown him with glory and honor” (Psalm 8:5), and that He would condescend to call us “friends” (John 15:14-15).

www.gotquestions.org/why-did-God-create-us.html

Originally posted by peejayd
* the heaven where the Father and Christ is...

OK, but where is this Heaven?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
OK, but where is this Heaven?

I can see where this one's going.

* the highest place beyond anyone's/anything's reach... paradise=third heaven, the heaven of heavens, the habitable part of God's earth...

Originally posted by chithappens
Nice reading. Notice how I said it:

I did not say I could draw a square-circle.

This was my point:

I call it possible assuming some being can do "anything."

The kicker is that it would likely change the understanding of what both a square and a circle are defined to be. I have to throw this disclaimer in there simply because everyone keeps talking about "possibility" and I know it is not possible to make a "square-circle" through the ways we define them now.

okay 😎

Originally posted by peejayd
* the highest place beyond anyone's/anything's reach... paradise=third heaven, the heaven of heavens, the habitable part of God's earth...

When you say highest, do you mean out into space?

One interesting idea which was mentioned in the Matrix movie.

maybe we are a cancer destroying this "Earth" cell. Which is part of some living creature, after all the universe appears to consist of smaller ball things going bigger to big ball things and in between there are things and creatures consisting of these "ball things".

I doubt it though, more likely we are here to gain experiences for the great spiritual self.

Originally posted by SoylentBlue
I can see where this one's going.

http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/faqs/tenworlds.htm

😄

I thought I'd save Shaky the trouble this time and recommend the 10 worlds!

I'm not kidding about the recommendation though.

Originally posted by Quark_666
http://www.sgi-usa.org/buddhism/faqs/tenworlds.htm

😄

I thought I'd save Shaky the trouble this time and recommend the 10 worlds!

I'm not kidding about the recommendation though.

👆

why does a perfect being feal PLEASURE at the creation of sumthing and want to create sumthing for his pleasure when he/she is by definition, perfect and complete even before feeling the pleasure. only beings lacking in completeness or perfection wud desire sumthing more like that.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
why does a perfect being feal PLEASURE at the creation of sumthing and want to create sumthing for his pleasure when he/she is by definition, perfect and complete even before feeling the pleasure. only beings lacking in completeness or perfection wud desire sumthing more like that.

So says the imperfect being . . .