how useful would a jedi be

Finally! sum ppl that kn how to debate an kno wat they're talking about *phew*

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
I know this is off topic a little but does anyone know if there is a site that has videos of space battles between the UNSC vs Covenant or any other sci-fi fleets I have seen one and it was pretty good but i can't recall where. I would love to see a fleet of SDs try and attack High Charity

EDIT: I found one
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=halo+space+battles&search=Search

A similar debate has been waged on numerous occasions, both here and on EoD, regarding the Empire versus the Covenant. The unanimous conclusion has been that the Empire would curbstomp the Covenant; Glentract made an extensive and decisive argument in favor of the Imperials that no one could withstand.

Especially when one considers that it took an entire fleet to glass Reach, whereas a single Imperial-class can do that. A better fight would be Revan's Sith Empire vs. the Covenant.

I had the same feeling the covenant also does not seem to have many brilliant strategic minds as well especially the ships they have that are under the control of the Brutes.

edit: if anyone finds some links to space battle videos please post a link

I've always wondered who wood win, but my favor wood be for the Empire no matter wat, cuz no matter wat the covenant cood do to them, THE EMPIRE WILL ALWAYS STRIKE BACK!

Executor vs. High Charity
anyone?

lol now i think a ground battle would be a lot closer and I would probably give it more often than not to the covenant if it is strictly ground troops and no atats or scarabs 9that would be pretty cool to)

I think it's time for George Lucas an Peter Jackson to hav a sitdown 😛

That would be nice,hopefully than the halo movie would start moving again.

One ISD could probably take out the covenant fleet that destroyed reach. They simply have far better weapons, defense, drives, etc.

And what exactly is EoD? I've seen it mentioned before, but I don't know the full name or web address of it.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
One ISD could probably take out the covenant fleet that destroyed reach. They simply have far better weapons, defense, drives, etc.

And what exactly is EoD? I've seen it mentioned before, but I don't know the full name or web address of it.

It is another forum site where you can debate star wars and I think Janus created it. And i seriously doubt one star destroyer could take out the fleet that attacked reach, there was at least 314 ships according to cortana.

And about one ISD glassing a planet is done all at once or over a period of time in rotating to different parts of the planet.

The Star Destoryer is a vastly superior ship though. For the larger covenant ships a few turbolaser bolts would take them out, and the smaller ones are nothing fighters can't deal with. Thrown in TIE bombers to supplement the Turbolsaer fire and the covenents odds don't look so hot.

And I still would like the full name and URL of EoD.

Still one ship vs 314 (or more) plus whatever banshees,seraphs,phantoms,spirits (can be used as fighters or transports) plus if a boarding could get aboard the ship they could plant one them bombs, as well as their own plasma torpedoes,pulse lasers and the other armaments of a the fleet, I doubt a single star destroyer could deal with that,there are just too may of them. That 314 ship wise plus they would definitely have space fighters.

Now vs a battle group of an assault carrier,destroyer and frigate then an ISD will win.

The fighter compliment of an ISD would be more than enough to deal with any support ship in the covenant armada, TIEs against banshees would be a turkey shoot for the Empire. The covenant couldn't damage the ISD due to its shielding, and covenant shields couldn't stop the ISDs weaponry.

And can I please have the URL for this mysterious EoD?

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
The fighter compliment of an ISD would be more than enough to deal with any support ship in the covenant armada, TIEs against banshees would be a turkey shoot for the Empire. The covenant couldn't damage the ISD due to its shielding, and covenant shields couldn't stop the ISDs weaponry.

And can I please have the URL for this mysterious EoD?

I don't know the link to EOD sorry,

Now I think after reviewing what the numbers of remaining ships after the battle of reach it depends of what ships are in the armada. I know it had a supercrusier which i believe is larger then an isd which is insignificant. But a typical carrier I think has about 100 seraphs,200 banshees, and about 30 phantoms and depending on how many carriers are in the fleet, it is very possible for the sheer numbers of the enemy will over whelm them much like a battle between the cov. and unsc. The unsc would have 3 to 1 numbers advantage but still take a lot of loses so I think out would be similar.

The covenant definitly would have the numbers advantage in a fight between an ISD and the fleet that glassed Reach, but I don't see how numbers matter when you can't hurt your enemy and your enemy can decimate you with ease.

I bet we can both agree that the Executor would curbstomp the flet at Reach though.

Probably yeah but my question is could an isd withstand being rammed from ships equal in size to it or bigger and if they continue to batter than with their. And if there big ships could hit them with a concentrated "energy projectors" which are used for glassing and taking out usncships and orbital platforms with one hit then it is very plausible for the shields to go down and then assault the ship

The ISDs ships would hold against being rammed by Coveant ships, in ESB 3 of them scraped against each other with no damage. And the energy projectors have very little chance of breaking the ISDs shields, since they were desinged to stop much more powerful weapons than the Covenant has.

That's why I said concentrated shots from the covenant capital ships one shot would do sh!t but from a good number of ships then the shields could down but it does lower there energy for a small time which they could use their escort ships and fighters for protection.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Energy_projector

It might overwhelm the ISDs shields, but even if it were likely to happen, they probably couldn't pull it off. Turbolaser bolts would decimate covenant ships, and an ISD has 73 turbolaser emplacments on board, many of which are multiple gun emplacements like dual and quad turbolasers. Assuming three well placed turbolaser blasts would put a Covenant ship out of action, Each battery would only have to fire around 12 times and the COvenant flett is gone. Coupled with all the Ion cannons on the ship that could disable Covenant vessels without having to damage it, the odds are definitely in the ISDs favor.

Hence they fire at a distance and use their escort ships the same way the unsc used their repair ships to shields and take the first rounds of the attack.

It does seem rather farfetched that a single Imperial-class Star Destroyer could wipe out an entire sizeable Covenant armada, though it would certainly dominate and obliterate numerous warships. However, one must take into account that the Empire (at its height) fielded over 25,000 Imperial-classes on its own, not taking into account the several dozen Super Star Destroyers, Imperial II-classes, Victory-classes, or whatnot.

Space battles? The Covenant is obliterated.

Ground battles would be vicious, but the Empire would still probably win due to sheer numbers.