Wolverine is clearly a good deal faster then the alien's or pred. we are discussing in combat
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Even in strength niether of the pred. showed greater strength the this
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Logan can also take a lot of damage with out even showing signs of it hurting or effecting his preformance
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Fighting Skills just some of many feats that put him well above either pred. in skill
Wolverine Enemy Of The State Part 1 of 6 issue 20: Wolverine shows off some of his skills while fighting a bunch of hand ninjas when he gets ambushed.
Wolverine Enemy Of The State Part 4 of 6 issue 29: Wolverine fights 15,000 hand ninjas. Logan shows off amazing skills and does not even take a single hit which just shows Logan level of skills when he puts his mind on it.
Wolverine The Crunch Conundrum 1 of 3 Cry Of Madness issue 51: Wolverine Maxes out the Danger room well costing in Neutral.
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Wolverine SoulTaker 4 of 5: Wolverine battles at least 8 samurai from the past said to be the fiercest of all and extremely skilled. They are even harder now because they are undead and back by magical powers making them harder to kill. One of them takes a stab to the chest by Logan and gets right back up. Logan defeats all 8 with out taking a single hit showing amazing skills.
Mutie.Dead by Chris Claremont & Scot Eaton: Wolverine fights the newest buch of sentinels that are made from humans who are extremely strong and fast and are designed to take out the X-men along with other mutants. Logan fights one and is kicking the crap out of it showing what he can do in a berserker rage. Logan skills are what allow him to battle this powerful sentinel.
Alpha Flight issue 34: Wolverine demonstrates his skills while battling a group of Samurai warriors who were sent to kill him. Logan defeats them and lady death strike with the aid of alpha flight.
Marvel Adventures The Avengers issue 3: Wolverine free Captain America who is restrained by cutting the restraints so fast that a robot could not even track the movement. He also cut it with out evening cutting Captain America which would require amazing skill. Captain America even comments on it.
Wolverine Origins issue 7: Wolverine shows his knowledge of pressure points by jabbing a doctor in the throat killing him in seconds.
Logan could simply rush the pred. dodging all there attacks like this.
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Logan is just the pred superior. He could ambush them. There cloaking is useless he been able to senses being who don't make sounds or can be smelled simply from air being slight disrupted like in Wolverine Blood Lust which is a Graphic Novel. Logan also is far superior in skill. He as superior tactics. He has superior training. These pred for the most part don't even have an experience edge. He as strong as either of them. He faster. He more agile. He has greater agility and reflexes. He could speed blizt them or dodge all there range attacks. There range attacks even if landed won't put him down. Logan can take either pred. down in one or two attacks. He simple to much for them. He also could simply ambush them.
Originally posted by braz
^So what, he makes a few human canon fodders look slow, big deal. Frank goes down quick, and because of that he has two Warrior(veteran) Predators on his ass with 3 plasma casters. He gets fried and they stick him and pour that blue acid on him until hes a metal skeleton.
Logan moved so fast they were unable to see him move. These were normal guys either like the pred. and aliens fought. They were highly trained soldier designed to take out a meta human who had superhuman reflexes.
This means Logans>>>>>>>aliens>>>>Pred. in combat speed.
Thats a massive advantage.
wow veteran pred. how scary I mean Logans never fought guys tougher then veterain pred.
Niether pred. did any thing to suggest they even could compete with Logan. There inferior in every way to Logan.
Logan could literrally ambush them and kill one before he knew what was happening. Pred. advantage in many fights is his stealth which is useless becuases he facing some one who can easily senses them and is well beyond them in terms of stealth.
sweet plazma cannons. I mean Logan could not dodge them or any thing. There slower then bullets and far easier to dodge. Hell the aliens were dodging them and there not in Logans class of comabt speed or relfexes.
sorry,but your scenerio has a Lot of wholes. First Logan more likly to ambush them then vice versa. Logan could easily dodge the casters. Logan could take a caster hit and keep comming. There no way there gunna get the acid crap on him. Hell it could be a very big disadvantage. If logan tags that contain while it attach to wolf well by by wolfs legs.
You shown you reason for why the pred. win nor have you shown any evidence. I on the other hand have given evidence why wolverine wins and my reasoning.
Originally posted by BattlehammerA run for it's money? Dutch had a few hours of prep time, that didn't work. H2H combat didn't work for him either. "Bad idea" 😱 Punisher's guns will basically do nothing to either Yautja. Heck, he won't even see it with the cloaking. Wheras any of the Yautja's weapons can one-shot Frank.
And neither of these pred. have taken on a human of his experience or skill. Hell arnold gave a pred. a run for it money lol.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
.........the pred were nopt even able to make humans look slow........... Hell all the aliens were able to do was move faster then humans, but humans were still easily able to track them.Logan moved so fast they were unable to see him move. These were normal guys either like the pred. and aliens fought. They were highly trained soldier designed to take out a meta human who had superhuman reflexes.
This means Logans>>>>>>>aliens>>>>Pred. in combat speed.
Thats a massive advantage.
wow veteran pred. how scary I mean Logans never fought guys tougher then veterain pred.
Niether pred. did any thing to suggest they even could compete with Logan. There inferior in every way to Logan.
Logan could literrally ambush them and kill one before he knew what was happening. Pred. advantage in many fights is his stealth which is useless becuases he facing some one who can easily senses them and is well beyond them in terms of stealth.
sweet plazma cannons. I mean Logan could not dodge them or any thing. There slower then bullets and far easier to dodge. Hell the aliens were dodging them and there not in Logans class of comabt speed or relfexes.
sorry,but your scenerio has a Lot of wholes. First Logan more likly to ambush them then vice versa. Logan could easily dodge the casters. Logan could take a caster hit and keep comming. There no way there gunna get the acid crap on him. Hell it could be a very big disadvantage. If logan tags that contain while it attach to wolf well by by wolfs legs.
You shown you reason for why the pred. win nor have you shown any evidence. I on the other hand have given evidence why wolverine wins and my reasoning.
Humans. Able to easily to track Alien Xenomorphs? Ur kidding right. Yeah, maybe when theyre distracted or sleeping, but a Xenomorph would be on a human within the blink of an eye despite 10-15 feet of distance.
Oh yeah, here we go again, the 'highly trained' canon fodder of marvel comics. 🙄
Logan may be slightly faster than Aliens in speed, because hes a damn comic character with an aura out the ass. But not waaayyy faster like ur saying. And Preds that have enough skill and experience can give multiple Aliens a run for their money in speed. This was obvious in AVP-R.
So ur saying Logan would get the drop on the Predators? Remember, the Predators have infrared vision and many others. I think they would know where each other are and whoever reacts first will come away with the win. And given the Predators have distance weaponry, then they could get the first strike. Wolverines been hit by bullets which the plasma is actually not that much slower than. And the only Alien that dodged a plasma bolt in AVPR was from the Pred in the ship when it was about to crash and the only reason was because he had the Alien in a tunnel view in which the Alien was at the end of it and could dive for cover and have him miss. A normal human couldve dodged that.
These Predators will most likely take a majority because they have distance weaponry, they obviously outnumber Wolverine and rival him in skill. And they know what theyre up against, thats the scenario and so does Wolverine and Punisher. The plasma casters will be too much for Logan to withstand even with his HF. 3 of them firing consecutive bolts that are all strong enough to crater Wolverines chest. Then when Logans down, they come over to him and finish him however they want.
Originally posted by Estacado
Didn't Broken Tusk **** up a hive by himself?Or was it a queen?
Haven't read the book just heard something like that.
Broken Tusk was badass, he took out around a dozen or so Aliens with nothing but a spear and wristblades. I cant remember if he killed a Queen though, probably but it was most likely just with a plasma caster. Less honorable.