geocentric theory: catholic propaganda?

Originally posted by james o'hanlon
Good day friends. I have a lot to read above. I will take it in stages. first above (SH) I see I am accused of making a false statement about theism. as it was I who argued that all races deduct theism from inside their intellect how can I be accused of making a false statement if I said what you agree to.

Now to the 2ns Law of Thermodynamics. It took me about two minutes to get this off the page devoted to the "nd Law. I paste the following: The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics describes basic principles familiar in everyday life. It is partially a universal law of decay; the ultimate cause of why everything ultimately falls apart and disintegrates over time. Material things are not eternal. Everything appears to change eventually, and chaos increases. Nothing stays as fresh as the day one buys it; clothing becomes faded, threadbare, and ultimately returns to dust.2 Everything ages and wears out. Even death is a manifestation of this law. The effects of the 2nd Law are all around, touching everything in the universe

Now if you deny the above is true and thereby argue against my conclusion based on it, then there is no point in going on. Will sombody rule as to who is right about the "nd Law. Then I will move on to the other replies>

If what you are saying is true, then we could never recycle or make things new form old things. The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is not the universal law of decay. Above I showed you how you have erred in this. "The second law of thermodynamics is an expression of the universal law of increasing entropy, stating that the entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium."
For all we know entropy could be increasing or staying the same, in the universe. There is really no way of knowing.

Geocentric theory is based on the idea that all stars are at the same distance from us , and are traveling like a shell around the Earth. We know for a fact that this is not true.

Originally posted by james o'hanlon
Good day friends. I have a lot to read above. I will take it in stages. first above (SH) I see I am accused of making a false statement about theism. as it was I who argued that all races deduct theism from inside their intellect how can I be accused of making a false statement if I said what you agree to.

Now to the 2ns Law of Thermodynamics. It took me about two minutes to get this off the page devoted to the "nd Law. I paste the following: The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics describes basic principles familiar in everyday life. It is partially a universal law of decay; the ultimate cause of why everything ultimately falls apart and disintegrates over time. Material things are not eternal. Everything appears to change eventually, and chaos increases. Nothing stays as fresh as the day one buys it; clothing becomes faded, threadbare, and ultimately returns to dust.2 Everything ages and wears out. Even death is a manifestation of this law. The effects of the 2nd Law are all around, touching everything in the universe

Now if you deny the above is true and thereby argue against my conclusion based on it, then there is no point in going on. Will sombody rule as to who is right about the "nd Law. Then I will move on to the other replies>

now now, youve just proven that you know little of actual science by saying this

Even death is a manifestation of this law.

its similar to how people make wrong and mystical interpretations of simple physics{i.e. einstien proved that energy can never be destroyed, therefore, the soul is eternal} . thermodynamically speaking, there is nothing on the whole, any difference between a living human body and a dead one. so your point is just plain ridiculous here.

lads, we are getting nowhere with this. I quote the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics from a random website on the 2nd Law and you guys reject it. This tells me that atheists are more desperate that I ever imagined. One of you put it this way: "If what you say is true, then we could never recycle or make new things from old."

Here I am pointing out the relationship of the 2nd law with FOREVER and I get a ten year relationship back. OK let me bring it down to this. Our sun is burning out, yes? Well in time it will (2nd Law at its best) and you guys with it.

Now the irony of it all is that here I find you guys rejecting the final consequences of a LAW of nature, and defending with all your atheistic faith something that is NOT a law - UNIVERSAL GRAVITY.

Universal gravity is an invention of the masonic Royal Society of London, a formula they handed to Isaac Newton. It is a theory invented to "prove" heliocentricism. In the first editions of Principia Newton did not call them LAWS. That came later when the rest of the heliocentric fraudsters called them laws. A THEORY OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION is NOT a LAW OF UNIVERSAL GRAVITATION. Now I do not accept theories as TRUTH. You guys can and argue all you like, but for me no thanks.

I think I will exit now with one final statement. The nature of the universe is such that it is impossible for man to determine with certainty whether the world is geocentric or heliocentric. This TRUTH has been known for centuries and no sane scientists or philosopher can deny this fact. Now if neither model can be proved by the empirical method then neither can the physics (or causes of movements) be known with certainty. Now whereas geocentricism was the preferred model until the eighteenth century, heliocentrism has been around as a scientific model AND A RELIGION since man first made records of his beliefs. So, in fact the RELIGION was heliocentricism and not geocentrism.

So, what prompted the Copernican revolution? It was the heliocentricism of hermetism. It arrived into Europe in the fifteenth century and spread like wildfire. One of its greatest advocats was Gio Bruno who went all over Europe preaching this for this OLD RELIGION. Thereafter the followers of this ancient religion began to devise a physics for it. To my knowledge no one tried to devise a physics for geocentrism. All physics theories therefore are heliocentric orientated. In time their theories were presented as LAWS and the "preferred" model became the heliocentric one and in time a scientific DOGMA.

But then came those two physics tests (the Airy experiment and the Mitchelson & Morely experiment) that gave geocentric results. The history of the theories that they used to get the earth moving again after the above experiment results shows that these guys were desperate and they had to pervert the science of physics to get their heliocentric fraud up and running again.

For me, a Christian, I believe God knows the true order of the cosmos because He created it. He revealed it in the Bible and His Church defined and declared this to be geocentric.

In 1741 Churchmen did a U-turn. The Church has always claimed divine guidance. Since 1741 churchmen deny the Church of 1616 was divinely guided. The Church was then divided against itself. This led to Modernism and now Rome's scientific beliefs are no different to the Atheists, believing in Heliocentrism, evolution, relativity, big bangism etc.

Thus is a brief history of G v H. G is a matter of Catholic faith. If my faith is true, no true science can ever prove G wrong. Having researched the so-called "proofs" for Heliocentricism and examined them very carefully I now know that their "proofs" are all hoaxes and frauds, plausabilities yes, but not certainties, yet they are promulgated as proven. Moreover they never produced any empirical rebuttals of the Airy and M&M conclusion - that the earth does not move. Now all the rhetoric of my fellow "debaters" do not amount to one iota of proof for their H or for their so-called falsifications of G.

That then is my position.
Good bye my friends, I am off fishing and shall never return.

Originally posted by james o'hanlon
lads, we are getting nowhere with this. I quote the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics from a random website on the 2nd Law and you guys reject it. This tells me that atheists are more desperate that I ever imagined. ...

What it should tell you is that you are wrong, or would that be a new experience for you?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What it should tell you is that you are wrong, or would that be a new experience for you?

Originally posted by chickenlover98
no what it should tell him is not to quote shit from random websites, instead of a trusted sourch

He should have said "random religious site".😐

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He should have said "random religious site".😐

Originally posted by chickenlover98
i find it hilarious when random dicks like this guy post like 10-20 posts and then leave. lol at amatuers

He was a sock anyways.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
He was a sock anyways.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
for?

Whob

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Whob

Originally posted by chickenlover98
who dat

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=53165

Originally posted by james o'hanlon
lads, we are getting nowhere with this. I quote the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics from a random website on the 2nd Law and you guys reject it. This tells me that atheists are more desperate that I ever imagined. One of you put it this way: "If what you say is true, then we could never recycle or make new things from old."

I'm a Mormon. I even call myself a Christian when there aren't any evangelicals watching. I hold to the theological belief that God created the world. But I don't believe God left any fingerprints when he did it, so when we study science, an attempt to bring God into the picture can do nothing except contaminate. I'm content to believe we'll figure out the connection one day. But here on earth, science and religion are two entirely independent practices and attempting to merge them makes normal people into complete fools. It is even detrimental to their religious practices because then faith relies on pseudoscience, and that defeats the purpose of both faith and science together.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Atheists? Desperate?

I'm a Mormon. I even call myself a Christian when there aren't any evangelicals watching. I hold to the theological belief that God created the world. But I don't believe God left any fingerprints when he did it, so when we study science, an attempt to bring God into the picture can do nothing except contaminate. I'm content to believe we'll figure out the connection one day. But here on earth, science and religion are two entirely independent practices and attempting to merge them makes normal people into complete fools. It is even detrimental to their religious practices because then faith relies on pseudoscience, and that defeats the purpose of both faith and science together.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=53165

you don't strike me as too tired, Pappaw.

Originally posted by Devil King
you don't strike me as too tired, Pappaw.

😕 I get tired in cycles. Usually I get tired at night, then during the day, I'm not as tired; with the exception of morning. However, I can get tired during the day. It usually happens when I have to deal with pompous asses. That has a way of wiping me out. Thanks for your concern.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😕 I get tired in cycles. Usually I get tired at night, then during the day, I'm not as tired; with the exception of morning. However, I can get tired during the day. It usually happens when I have to deal with pompous asses. That has a way of wiping me out. Thanks for your concern.

Having sex through out the day at random times will do that to you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😕 I get tired in cycles. Usually I get tired at night, then during the day, I'm not as tired; with the exception of morning. However, I can get tired during the day. It usually happens when I have to deal with pompous asses. That has a way of wiping me out. Thanks for your concern.

I'm sorry, where in your response did you repost your condemnation of queeq's behavior?

Yeah, no where. That's what I thought.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'm sorry, where in your response did you repost your condemnation of queeq's behavior?

Yeah, no where. That's what I thought.

I'm getting tired. Good night.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Having sex through out the day at random times will do that to you.