First of all I just wanted to say great job to both Smurph and Akuki. 👆
After reading your debate I would say that the Spider Sense is superior to the Vampires eye. I make this conclusion for the fact that Caerula relies on the movement of air molecules from a person’s body movement. Yes, it is a very impressive ability, but it does not stack up to the Spider Sense.
Why I say so..
Spider-man Spider sense according to Smurph can detect danger before the actual events happen. And Smurph did a good job in defending this claim. He also showed me that the SS can determine what kind of danger the severity of it, and where it can be coming from. Akuki showed that Caerula has to rely on the Vampire’s eye after the moment of what ever she is sensing after the movement begins (based on what is shown). I conclude that the Spider Sense is superior to the Vampire’s Eye.
Smurph also proved that Spider-man is as well is superior to Caerula in strength.
Akuki a few time’s states that the opponents she fights are Spider-man’s level of strength or greater. They may be as strong as Spider-man, but Akuki did not showed any scans of some strength feats that Caerula opponents (the subordinate or Alita) have. In any case if there were as strong has Spider-man , non of the scan that Akuki showed that Caerula were equal or had greater strength than her opponents.
Akuki, I wished you displayed some durability feats from Caerula. I have no idea where to place her when it comes to taking brunt damage, especially class 20 punches. From what was shown in this thread I would have to assume that her durability is everything but above average 😬 From this I would say that Spider-man could probably one shot her. I did not see any indication that Caerula can avoid every attack from Spider-man when he can Blitz her like how Smurph pointed with his fights with Absorbing Man and FireLord. Almost all the attacks she avoided were one-shot deals from her opponents.
BUT with that nifty sword that Caerula carries she would only need one good strike at Spider-man to defeat him. Unfortunately Spider-man’s SS should help him avoid her deathblows.
Akuki, I was very surprised that you can debate this well. You did an amazing job. BUT what you should of focused on is Spider-man’s faults more so. You most of your debate was based on Caerula, and did not mention how Spider-man is inferior to her. Don’t just focus on the character you represent, you also have to also discredit the character that your debating against. Be more aggressive.
Smurph, you represented your character of choice superbly and also did a good job to discredit Caerula. Your debating style excellent, u have some charisma but at the same time showed respect to Akuki..
This fight really comes down to Spider Sense vs The Vampire’s Eye. And from what was shown to me I say the Spider Sense is superior.
My vote goes to Smurph.
Judges Vote:
To start off great debating on both sides.
This was an interesting battle. Seems less like a battle of power or skill and more like a battle of who has the best precog. Going through the scans of everything and taking it all at face value (since I know nothing of the manga, and dont want to use bias on Spiderman) I have come to several conclusions that lead to the finale outcome in my opinion.
Skill:
In terms of pure melee skill Caerula seems to outshine Spiderman by leagues and miles. Being a Martial Artists helps when someone of superior speed, agility, strength, and overall physical stats is fighting against you. However, those techniques and knowledge are only useful if you can touch your opponent (I will touch on this later)
Vampire Eye vs Spider Sense:
In my mind precog is precog. They both seemed to do about the same thing, Spiderman warning him about danger and how to capitalize on it and Caerula predicting moves and how to capitalize on it as well. Which helped who more though? Caerula seems like a Batman type thinker in battle, while Spiderman relies on his superior physical stats in battle. Using their precog they seem able to always predict where the opponent will be, but what will knowing what will happen help if your opponent always knows what will happen AND is faster than you to the punch? Which leads us to:
Physical Stats
Spiderman in my opinion has this hands down. While Caerula has him beat in pure MA, she cannot hurt what she cannot hit, and even if she can predict his moves he can predict her said moves and move faster than she can. In the end it is not a loop of predicted moves, but of when Spiderman will hit her because he is so much faster. And since her durability was never once shown (she dodged everything), I couldnt rightly place her above average human when someone who she couldnt dodge would hit her.
He also has the advantage in ranged weaponry when it comes to his webbing (and being the Ironman fanboy that I am, I know full and well the capabilities of his Uni-Beam. Not that I agree with what happened, but he webbed him up like nothing he has ever webbed up before.) He can swing, stick to walls, attack from distances, and as Smurph pointed out he can use the environment to his advantage.
Will Caerula and the Vampire Eye give Spiderman hell? Sure.
Will it take them both time to adjust to not being the only precogs in the battle? Sure
Will Spider-Man eventually win out though? In my opinion yes.
My Vote goes to Smurph