Nice piece on Molecule Man mental state at the time of siege and RW's just trying desperately to wave his hand and ignoring evidence as always.
JLA/Avengers shows Superman was less powerful than Thor
This scene is interpreted as Superman being less powerful than Thor in power.
From JLA/Avengers Collected Edition, Kurt Busiek reveals the plot behind the comic.
Busiek's plot reveals that Thor combined with several other avengers couldn't beat Superman in raw power and Superman adds his own power to mjolnir to destroy Krona's barrier which Thor couldn't.
Myth Busted
and Superman adds his own power to mjolnir to destroy Krona's barrier which Thor couldn't.
lol really? why rephrase this? the commentary says clear as day that mjolnir added ITS power to superman's, not that superman added his power to the hammer... anyway, i guess you're saying superman+hammer+shield>thor+hammer? not sure that is much of a busted myth tbh as superman>thor w/o hammer... /shrug
Im going to dismantle thus destroy your so called "de-bunking" of the IG feat.
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First off: The Negative Zone not only had absolutely nothing to do with FF Annual #23,
but,
it wasn't even mentioned, hinted, or even alluded to have anything to do with FF Annual #23,
like even indirectly, lmfao!
You're twisting yourself clueless by misinterpreting FF #319 which did include the NZ,
although it had nothing to do with the BeyonderS realm being literally inside the NZ, that's ridiculous.
I'll debunk that notion as well tomorrow, although it has nothing to do with FF Annual #23.
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Secondly:
Even though you're completely wrong
as to the Beyond Realm or BeyonderS being located withIn the Negative Zone. facepalm
You're also incorrect regarding Marvel cosmology during the IG affair,
like presenting the Beyonder's Retcon issue (FF#319) which was published 1988
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to somehow "debunk" what took place 4 years later (1992) in IW#4, (actuality ripple)
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IW#4 which took place AFTER FF-Annual #23, (1990)
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FF-Annual #23, where Kosmos-Kubik went outside/beyond the Multiverse into the Beyond Realm,
AFTER traveling past the entire infinite multiverse.
"How can we transcend All There Is?"
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they surpassed Eternity (All There Is) and entered the Beyond Realm.
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During the Infinity Gauntlet saga, (published 1991)
the Beyond Realm was not only outside beyond the infinite Multiverse,
but it was so immense that the Omniversal LT (FF-Annual #23, (1990)
and All Eternity (infinite multiverse)
literally "dwindled into insignificance" (disappeared lol) in front of Kubik and Kosmos.
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The Omniversal LT, and All Eternity, who encompassed the omniversal LT,
were less than specks next to Kubik and Kosmos while they were within the Beyond Realm.
God only knows how much more majestic the actual BeyonderS themselves must've been,
when Kubik and Kosmos are literally "minute bits of energy" of the BeyonderS.
BeyonderS were the final stage, the highest order,
the most vast, that Kubik and Kosmos came across:
(mind you, they passed by the LT who existed in all multiverseS simultaneously)
The instant Kubik/Kosmos entered the Beyond Realm,
they themselves dwarfed the trans-infinite multiverse.
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Official Marvel bio corroborated:
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http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/beyondersw.htm
(Fantastic Four Annual I#23/3)
"Kubik welcomed her and led her on a tour of the universe, the Multiverse, and BEYOND"
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http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/beyondersw.htm
(botttom of page under clarifications)
"Beyonders, enigmatic race outside of the Multiverse"
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(Infinity Watch #4 - published 1992)
"Thanos ... Infinity Gauntlet ... Actuality ripple ...
eventually reached the home of the BeyonderS"
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http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/beyondersw.htm
(botttom of page under clarifications)
"Beyonders, enigmatic race outside of the Multiverse"
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(Fantastic Four Annual I#23 - published 1990)
"Kubik welcomed her and led her on a tour of the universe, the Multiverse and BEYOND"
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The Living Tribunal (since 1990) was an Omniversal power,
and was the "representative force" of TOAA
and had the "authority of TOAA .... during the Infinity Gauntlet (1991)
AND Yet still ... The LT had to gauge his power, determining if he had enough ...
... as if being an Omniversal power plus packing backing from TOAA wasn't enuff. 🙂
Damn, that classic IG was something special!
Stalemate ... no potentially definitive winner is ever disclosed. 👆
And, even if, the LT would've won, it would've been a reality ending battle.
Amazing! Respect the classic IG homie.
Yggdrasil feat:
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Ragnarok only happens for Earth and Asgard and it didn't involved moving planets.Thor forced world engine to move back time.
Later Defalco retconned it by showing Odin manipulated Yggdrasil to remove Asgardians and as it saw there were no gods in Asgard, it stopped creating Ragnarok.
So in essence Thor didn't do anything.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yup. Here's the additional source from Thor 500.And letters page from Thor 496 which states that it was all due to Odin himself (how Red Norvell survived while others like Beta Ray Bill didn't).
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=671019&pagenumber=9#post17266050
Odin/RKT Mythbuster.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway since Dambo is backing out of the BZ, I'll make my argument right here.RKT got Odinforce and Runes just like Odin did. From Thor 84.
Unlike Odin he had to die and reborn to get the power of the runes because the cyclic nature of Ragnarok made sacrifices lesser, that's why Thor had to pluck out both his eyes instead of one.
Thor had only one advantage on Odin, he had lived as a mortal (which was a gift from Odin) and thus his actions were shielded from both Those who sit in the Shadows and Odinforce itself.
Recap and ending page of Thor 85 says the same.
Thor wasn't more powerful or knowledgeable than Odin, he was shielded from the older gods and fates themselves due to having lived as a mortal.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even feat wise RKT isn't more powerful than Odin.RKT makes a weakened Mangog cease to exist.
Odin causes a full power Mangog to cease to exist.
RKT defeats Loki (Mind you, Loki never said he had siphoned the magic of Asgard, just that he was Asgard now).
Odin defeats Loki and Absorbing Man who actually became Asgard.
Also RKT said he can't reverse what's already happened.
While Odin has reversed time before Thor killed several heroes in Thor First Thunder.
So yeah.
Myth of Galactus destroying a galaxy based on this scan from Thanos Imperative.
Galaxy was swept clean of the annihilation wave, not destroyed entirely.
You can see the position where Galactus was on the first scan.
Galactus was on the edge of kree galaxy, obviously none of the kree galaxy was destroyed. Because those conquered worlds were ceded to centurions after the war.
So, what did Galactus actually destroy? A galaxy? No chance.
Moreover this is the size of kree empire, 1000 worlds.
Handbook also says Galactus laid waste to star systems, not galaxy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
The CCU only did it for the planet only.Its clearly stated that a fully formed cube can restructure the planet. But as the CCU was flawed, it merged the different planets.
"Three different earths trying to occupy the same space."
Where is the universe merging you're talking about?
Grants her power over the omniverse? What are you talking about? She had the crystals which her grandfather had built and which allowed her to destroy a reality.
She was not powered by the ****ing omniverse you goon.
Hey idiot, CCU was flat out stated to be planetary in power several times.
All it did was create a reality cancer which threatened to weaken the barriers between the realities and destroy the omniverse.
And Doom with Roma's power was beaten by Captain Britain Corps.
In form of crystals. Not in her own power.
Crystals you goon. The power wasn't flowing through her.
Yes, a reality cancer. A planetary bomb also threatened to do that.
Read and weep.
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It didn't warp the parallel dimensions. It created a reality cancer which was causing all that trouble.
But let me know where it even warped a whole universe before you start harping about dozens of universes.
Yes, the reality cancer. Not warping of universes or shit like that.
Haha, seriously? Those are due to the crystals which housed the life forces of realities. Not that it was an omniversal power in one spot.
Yes, it Rock of Eternity lite. It doesn't give you omniversal power however.
Those are literally worlds aka Earths. Not universes. And that's Betsy not jean.
Did you even read it or just searched cube in Adobe Reader? Here is the full page.
He literally separated the three earths that were joined. Not universes.
Oh you simple minded buffoon. Got any more claims I need to destroy?
Myth about Chaos Engine trilogy where Cosmic Cube "threatened to destroy the omniverse".
Myth: Silver Surfer created a galaxy sized black hole.
The galaxy you see is actually the debris created by the destruction of planet Xandar by Annihilation Wave. As seen by Surfer when he arrives at Xandar.
This is the full sequence. As you can see, the same debris around light is shown when Surfer visits Skrull homeworld too.
The black hole's size is unknown but its definitely not even planetary in scope.
