Originally posted by Thorion
Infinity was a shard of Odin. Still doesn't qualify as a powerup i'm afraid..
Again as said before from what I know it have been retconned though I'm not sure in what way...
But what it seems like from Infinity's bio which I posted above it wasn't Odin but instead Thor that defeated Infinity and that it was the abstract that was used... 😕
Originally posted by Utrigita
Again as said before from what I know it have been retconned though I'm not sure in what way...But what it seems like from Infinity's bio which I posted above it wasn't Odin but instead Thor that defeated Infinity and that it was the abstract that was used... 😕
It was a very ambiguous retcon. It gives us two possibilities. Odin can draw on Infinity (Eternity's counterpart's) powers, or he can draw on Infinity (A shard of himself's) powers at will.
Originally posted by Thorion
Interesting...either way, though, it shows that Odin can tap into the power at will. If he can do it at will, it shouldn't count as a powerup..
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There was only a *partial* retcon, designed to get rid of the idea that just *half* of the Odin Power could effortlessly destroy the entire Universe, as well as boost Infinity's stature while at it.
........The exact Quote from Quasar #19:
"I glimpsed her HAND once-- many cycles ago-- when a tiny FRACTION of her power was being tapped by the Earth-God ODIN.."
........The exact quote from the Handbook:
"Thor #184-188: Infinity's force perceived by Odin and inadvertently tapped, creating an astronomical manifestation extinguishing stars in Asgard dimension; Odin went to World Beyond to investigate it, became mentally unhinged while contemplating power, combined mystical might of Asgard directed by Thor prevented a permanent merging with Odin-like Infinity-manifestation"
.......Allow me clarify some on the Infinity Saga, at least little bit, since there seems to be a lot of misconception as far as the retcon goes. I also want to preface this by reminding that the handbook is OOC, and thus invalid.
In said story, a failed assasination attempt splits Odin into two beings. One of the beings is named Infinity. And Infinity is Odin's evil half. Eventually, Odin confronts Infinity and they do battle (lots of fireworks). But Infinity is only getting *stronger* and *stronger* as time goes by, and eventually simply overpowers Odin -- Odin is defeated by Infinity. Mind controlled Odin then goes after Thor and company. At any rate, only with the help of Thor and some others is Odin able regain his senses or whatever. Then, is able to absorb his evil half, Infinity, back into himself and fix all the damage Infinity caused, as well as the damage they caused during their battle.
The retcon only told us *where* Odin's evil half was getting power from, and why Odin's evil half grew more and more powerful as it so desired, surpassing Odin's good half. It tells of nothing else.
Originally posted by Thorion
It was a very ambiguous retcon. It gives us two possibilities. Odin can draw on Infinity (Eternity's counterpart's) powers, or he can draw on Infinity (A shard of himself's) powers at will.
Because he did at that time doesn't mean that he can do it now.
And it from the material on top it seems like it was a fraction he possessed without possibility for further advancing his powerlevels...
Originally posted by Utrigita
Because he did at that time doesn't mean that he can do it now.And it from the material on top it seems like it was a fraction he possessed without possibility for further advancing his powerlevels...
Interesting. I'm still pretty confused, though. So it was indeed his counterpart Infinitys' powers he drew it from right? I'd also assume that those powerlevels are pretty standard since it was written by Stan Lee. Odin's creator. So if he intended Odin to be that powerful then he probably is.
Interesting. I'm still pretty confused, though. So it was indeed his counterpart Infinitys' powers he drew it from right? I'd also assume that those powerlevels are pretty standard since it was written by Stan Lee. Odin's creator. So if he intended Odin to be that powerful then he probably is. I do agree that it was probably nearing the limits of his powers, though.
Originally posted by Thorion
Interesting. I'm still pretty confused, though. So it was indeed his counterpart Infinitys' powers he drew it from right? I'd also assume that those powerlevels are pretty standard since it was written by Stan Lee. Odin's creator. So if he intended Odin to be that powerful then he probably is. I do agree that it was probably nearing the limits of his powers, though.
I have absolutely no idea about this I'm just as confused as you are and have been for a long time since I discussed Odin Vs Galactus.
But the way and I could very well be wrong is this:
Odin gets a shard from the abstract Infinity.
Hela then animates the shard and names it infinity.
Now according to the retcon, Odin goes to Battle Infinity but cannot win because Infinity gets stronger and stronger he then loses and gets mindcontrolled, Thor then later frees his father and Odin then Manages to Absorb his evil side half whatever, and uses the power to remake everything that was destroyed in the progress of there battle.
The entire retcon is as mentioned above from the part I copied in, is made because it seemed to insane that just a part of Odin's power could destroy the Universe...
But again not sure in any way... just my view on it...
And if you want to enter that stan lee knows his characters then this debate is over since in THOR V1 #134 the narrator tells us that Galactus is "The most awesome living entity in the cosmos"
and in FANTASTIC FOUR v1 #74 Narration tells us that Galactus is "The most supremely destructive figure in the known universe"
So lets not enter that area shall we 🙂
Originally posted by Terryc250
...Galactus >>>> OdinGalactus at full power is as powerful as Eternity
Eternity > All celestials (excluding scathan)
a moderate Galactus is atleast as powerful as an average Celestial
When ALL of the skyfathers(including odin) attacked the Celestials, the Celestials didnt even take notice of them and dropped them like flies.
ALL of the skyfathers(including Odin) vs RLT
Skyfathers will win hard.
moderate Galactus => Average Celestial
moderate Galactus > RLT
Galactus>>>>Odinhmm
Living Tribunal=Scathan the Approver>Eternity
Tiamut, Arishem or Exitar vs Galactus merits a worthy debate as me, Utrigita and Tenebrous can attest to
Originally posted by guy222
Galactus>>>>Odinhmm
✅ 😄
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You know as well as I do that the Galactus that have been encounteret by Thor until this point is one that was so depleted in power that he had to resort to using tech 😛
Living Tribunal=Scathan the Approver>Eternity[/B]
Yes.
Tiamut, Arishem or Exitar vs Galactus merits a worthy debate as me, Utrigita and Tenebrous can attest to [/B]
It sure does, IMO Galactus vs Tiamut, Galactus normal powerlevels, Galactus wins a single Celestial more any celestial and Galactus wouldn't win.
Arishem and Exitar against Galactus normal Powerlevels tough to gauge but a small victory for Galactus but this battle he can just as easily lose as he can win it
(disregarding Hyperspace energy manipulation completely)
http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306561&postcount=65
I suggest anybody who's interested in this battle reads the above post. It's extremely informative. It's pretty long, but It's a worthwhile read.
Originally posted by Thorion
http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306561&postcount=65I suggest anybody who's interested in this battle reads the above post. It's extremely informative. It's pretty long, but It's a worthwhile read.
Galactus jobs like shit 😎.
You probably don't read comics with him. (No offense or anything)
Also in one issue a weaker Galactus was insatiable and kept devouring his universe but destroyed to prevent it him from affecting others.
Originally posted by SpiderGauntlet
Galactus jobs like shit 😎.You probably don't read comics with him. (No offense or anything)
Also in one issue a weaker Galactus was insatiable and kept devouring his universe but destroyed to prevent it him from affecting others.
None taken. You're kind of right, though. I've missed out on a lot of his current appearances, like Annihilation. 616 Galactus has time and time again been portrayed as an idiot. If we compare feats, they're about equal, give or take. Now, RLT is a couple of steps above Odin which is why I give him a majority over Galactus, while I think that Odin either stalemates or loses a slight majority.