Epitome of force usage?

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Epitome of force usage?

What is the highest degree of force manipulation? Is it the ability to create life? The ability to become immortal, or to communicate with the living after death? Ability to shoot lightning out of your....hands? Choke people? What do you think?

The highest degree of individual manipulation ever performed would likely be the creation of life through use of the Force, a feat only accomplished once under unknown circumstances.

But if you mean in terms of sheer power and magnitude, Palpatine's Force Storm would likely take this honorific.

But still, the Rakata managed to concentrate the Dark Side into a focal point such as the Star Forge which itself could manipulate energy and matter. Tough decision.

jacen was canonically sed to hav reached the most powerful being to use the Force during his fight with onimi(or watever) during the YV war
he pretty much became one with the force while being alive, but it stole anything left of his teens from him after that

According to Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force.

"Jacen battled the invaders' Supreme Overlord and was briefly transformed into the most powerful manifestation of the Force on record."

This does not explicitly state or indicate that Jacen demonstrated the Force's strongest attack -- but rather achieved a oneness with it that surpassed all others' on record.

If one equates power to the most arcane and deepest rituals, Darth Plagueis's rumored manipulation of midichlorians ranks among it, as does the ability to "transcend death" in the form of becoming one with the Force or even the lesser version used by Palpatine.

In terms of destruction, Palpatine's Force Storms seem to be the greatest, as does the Thought Bomb.

hmmm..

Force Storm vs. Thought bomb

that's a toss up. :/

Originally posted by Satauros
hmmm..

Force Storm vs. Thought bomb

that's a toss up. :/

I need to do more research on the Thought Bomb, since my copy of PoD is missing. Does it just eliminate Force users or all life?

It essentially demolishes any being strong in the force within a certain radius (which is how Darovit was able to survive; his force strength barely even registered to Bane, and he's stated as being weak in the force), and sucks their spirits into a grey orb, which then proceed to get torn apart.

It's highly destructive, but lacks the kind of range for it to truly be considered the epitome of force usage.

I'd personally go with what Nihilus does to Katarr.

Originally posted by BaneLover
It essentially demolishes any being strong in the force within a certain radius (which is how Darovit was able to survive; his force strength barely even registered to Bane, and he's stated as being weak in the force), and sucks their spirits into a grey orb, which then proceed to get torn apart.

It's highly destructive, but lacks the kind of range for it to truly be considered the epitome of force usage.

Well, if it only consumes objects or persons "strong in the Force" and only in a certain radius, I suppose it isn't as powerful or as effective as was previously thought.

I'd personally go with what Nihilus does to Katarr.

It ranks up there, certainly. Though to what extent was Katarr destroyed? Consider that Palpatine's Force Storms not only obliterate life (Force-using or otherwise) but also lifeless matter.

Originally posted by Gideon
Well, if it only consumes objects or persons "strong in the Force" and only in a certain radius, I suppose it isn't as powerful or as effective as was previously thought.

It ranks up there, certainly. Though to what extent was Katarr destroyed? Consider that Palpatine's Force Storms not only obliterate life (Force-using or otherwise) but also lifeless matter.

Please, the thought bomb is nothing compared to the force storm. The force storm tears the fabric of space, pwns planets and capital ships. The thought bomb destroys force users in a CERTAIN RADIUS. Try again Noobaris..

Furthermore, if the ability to transcend death is 'up there', then Cade Skywalker's bullshit ability has to be as well.

WTF?

Originally posted by BaneLover
WTF?

sumone shood compile a list of Force abilities that are listed in 2 catagories, Destructive & non-destructive, then put the top one from each catagory in a hypothetical situation against each other, then I think we will hav our answer

Bugger off, Neb.

The Thought Bomb is supposed to destroy all life within the blast radius, not just those powerful in the Force. It just so happens that most life within the blast radius, in the case of the Thought Bomb on Ruusan, consisted of Sith Lords and Jedi Knights. However, it does say that all the cave structures at ground zero were more or less vaporized (more eloquently put, of course). It does target life over mere matter, of course.

I feel that such a list would be very long, Satauros. 😛 Would we include abilities that grant increased stamina or strength or speed to the Force-user?

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Who doesn't? 😄

I think, despite being limited to a (large) radius, the Thought Bomb is still rather impressive. It doesn't just destroy matter and life, it essentially rips out the souls of those caught in the blast and contains them. That has to be worth something...

I also feel that most of the contenders for epitome of Force usage are mostly Dark Sided. What are some Light Sided abilities that could epitomize the Jedi? Perhaps the Wall of Light that the Jedi unleashed on Kun?

And maybe Jacen's oneness with the force against Omni.

It all depends. In truth, many light side techniques may in fact require greater concentration and mastery; we just typically define "greatest" and "power" with destruction (which is why the Force Storm is the natural contender).

What does that say about us?

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Most Powerful Force Feat

I was just wondering what the most powerful feat ever performed by a single Force user, either Good or Evil, movies or books. Thanks.

Palpatine's force storm.

Agreed, and i would add banes force storm up there in 2nd place , but i don't think he did it by himself.