Takion vs Superman Prime

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I love how Quan keeps wanking Prime, but then he turns around and says Thanos could beat Prime. Priceless. vin
I love it too amazing right?

Originally posted by batdude123
It may not be his normal method of attacking, but it's certainly not out of the question.

Case in point:

That's hand speed...

Plus, even if that's a blitz, that's once. 😬

Originally posted by iceman24567
I swear he blitzed the all the flashes at the same time...
By landing random punches?

Originally posted by batdude123
Which is quite retarded if one thinks about it.

More than quite even...

The ring can't remove it from his system? Look at what it did to Hal....

Originally posted by llagrok
And the ring used a lot of energy to keep back the poison.

In fact, Yat will die of lead poisoning if his ring ever comes off....

Ok but do you really think Yat is currently in a weakened state. He got beat because Prime was better.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
That's hand speed...

Plus, even if that's a blitz, that's once. 😬

By landing random punches?

Keeping up with and landing multiple punches on bloodlusted Flashes is as much of a speedblitz as anything posted on here.

And I guess you skipped this part...

Originally posted by batdude123
It may not be his normal method of attacking, but it's certainly not out of the question.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I love how Quan keeps wanking Prime, but then he turns around and says Thanos could beat Prime. Priceless. vin
I love both characters. This thread isnt about Thanos though now is it?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok but do you really think Yat is currently in a weakened state. He got beat because Prime was better.

The ring uses a lot of energy to keep him alive and he's constantly dependent on it in order to survive, that doesn't affect the way he fights? It's like Cable and TK virus!

Originally posted by batdude123
Keeping up with and landing multiple punches on bloodlusted Flashes is as much of a speedblitz as anything posted on here.

And I guess you skipped this part...

I thought the blitz was considered what Superman does... Either way... it was basically him spinning in a circle throwing punches... or throwings his punches wildly, whatever way.

No. It's based on one time though... I mean, it's not like the actual character Prime is attune to blitzing.

F*CK! These noodles are terrible! 😘

Originally posted by llagrok
The ring uses a lot of energy to keep him alive and he's constantly dependent on it in order to survive, that doesn't affect the way he fights? It's like Cable and TK virus!
He was getting beaten before and after it. The entire time Prime was basically beating on him. The outcome would have been the same and imo I thought he recovered from the poisoning during the fight but others see it differently.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was getting beaten before and after it. The entire time Prime was basically beating on him. The outcome would have been the same and imo I thought he recovered from the poisoning during the fight but others see it differently.

That's speculation though and Yat being poisoned is an obvious turning point...

Originally posted by llagrok
That's speculation though and Yat being poisoned is an obvious turning point...
Well like I said I feel he recovered when the ring stopped the effects. But I guess we just disagree.

Yeah.

My main point is that Yat will never be at his best again, due to the lead poisoning in his blood. Prime should and would probably still have won the fight, but it certainly sped things up.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I thought the blitz was considered what Superman does... Either way... it was basically him spinning in a circle throwing punches... or throwings his punches wildly, whatever way.

'Speedblitz' is a largely subjective term.

I take it to mean three things:

1. The character uses his combat speed effectively in said encounter.

2. The character demonstrates a fine level of his reflexes/reaction speed.

3. The blitzing character lands multiple blows on the other character in that encounter.

What Prime did against the Flashes meets that criteria.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
No. It's based on one time though... I mean, it's not like the actual character Prime is attune to blitzing.

I agree, but I believe he used speed against the GLs as well.

Regardless, anyone saying that Prime flat out can't speed blitz someone is completely ignorant. It's like not being able to put 2 and 2 together.

Originally posted by batdude123
'Speedblitz' is a largely subjective term.

I take it to mean three things:

1. The character uses his combat speed effectively in said encounter.

2. The character demonstrates a fine level of his reflexes/reaction speed.

3. The blitzing character lands multiple blows on the other character in that encounter.

What Prime did against the Flashes meets that criteria.

I believe he used speed against the GLs as well.

Regardless, saying Prime flat out can't speed blitz someone is completely ignorant. It's like not being able to put 2 and 2 together.

I think he wasnt arguing that he couldnt do it but rather that he doesnt use the speedblitz too often.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think he wasnt arguing that he couldnt do it but rather that he doesnt use the speedblitz too often.
Yeah but we know he can and will if he needs to.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah but we know he can and will if he needs to.
I know.

Originally posted by batdude123
'Speedblitz' is a largely subjective term.

I take it to mean three things:

1. The character uses his combat speed effectively in said encounter.

2. The character demonstrates a fine level of his reflexes/reaction speed.

3. The blitzing character lands multiple blows on the other character in that encounter.

What Prime did against the Flashes meets that criteria.


So basically if someone can swing their arms fast... they can speedblitz?
He knocked back a bunch of Flashes with wild punches. 😬

Also, just because that's how you take it to mean, it doesn't mean that's how I take it to mean.

Originally posted by batdude123
I agree, but I believe he used speed against the GLs as well.

Regardless, anyone saying that Prime flat out can't speed blitz someone is completely ignorant. It's like not being able to put 2 and 2 together.

When? I'd have to see this... that's also only two if we follow these as acceptable 'blitzes'.

It's a good thing I never said that then... If they don't do it period, or that often, then why should they be doing this on the forum? Plus, if he only "blitzed" as a reaction to getting blitzed... then why would he use it on someone who doesn't? Is that an acceptable tactic on a brick, or an energy manipulator?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So basically if someone can swing their arms fast... they can speedblitz?
He knocked back a bunch of Flashes with wild punches. 😬

Also, just because that's how you take it to mean, it doesn't mean that's how I take it to mean.

When? I'd have to see this... that's also only two if we follow these as acceptable 'blitzes'.

It's a good thing I never said that then... If they don't do it period, or that often, then why should they be doing this on the forum? Plus, if he only "blitzed" as a reaction to getting blitzed... then why would he use it on someone who doesn't? Is that an acceptable tactic on a brick, or an energy manipulator?

You know it's not that simple.

It was a counter-blitz to what the Flashes were doing to him. He used combat speed combined with super speed punches to fend off the fastest beings in the universe. It takes tremendous reflexes to pull off that feat, as he actually has to out speed all three Flashes in order to knock them away from him. Especially when everyone around here considers what Jay, Bart, and Wally did to Prime was a speed blitz, you bet your ass I think what SBP did to them was a speed blitz as well.

A defensive speed blitz is still a speed blitz.

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I just remember him running through groups of them using heat vision and cold breath then shattering their remains at super speed. srug

I know you never said that. That's why I said "anyone saying that... "... meaning not you in particular. On a normal basis, he doesn't really need to. However, if an opportunity arises where he needs to use a blitz or combat speed, he obviously can.

I said to you earlier that he doesn't need to use speed blitzes in fights because the power aspect about him more than takes care of that. That doesn't mean he can't, however. All I've been saying is that he can, and has pulled off a blitz before. My intention was not to say that Prime will blitz every person he encounters in forum fights... unlike many others around here. 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
You know it's not that simple.

It was a counter-blitz to what the Flashes were doing to him. He used combat speed combined with super speed punches to fend off the fastest beings in the universe. It takes tremendous reflexes to pull off that feat, as he actually has to out speed all three Flashes in order to knock them away from him. Especially when everyone around here considers what Jay, Bart, and Wally did to Prime was a speed blitz, you bet your ass I think what SBP did to them was a speed blitz as well.

A defensive speed blitz is still a speed blitz.

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I just remember him running through groups of them using heat vision and cold breath then shattering their remains at super speed. srug

I know you never said that. That's why I said "anyone saying that... "... meaning not you in particular. On a normal basis, he doesn't really need to. However, if an opportunity arises where he needs to use a blitz or combat speed, he obviously can.

I said to you earlier that he doesn't need to use speed blitzes in fights because the power aspect about him more than takes care of that. That doesn't mean he can't, however. All I've been saying is that he can, and has pulled off a blitz before. My intention was not to say that Prime will blitz every person he encounters in forum fights... unlike many others around here. 🙂

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Originally posted by batdude123
You know it's not that simple.

It was a counter-blitz to what the Flashes were doing to him. He used combat speed combined with super speed punches to fend off the fastest beings in the universe. It takes tremendous reflexes to pull off that feat, as he actually has to out speed all three Flashes in order to knock them away from him. Especially when everyone around here considers what Jay, Bart, and Wally did to Prime was a speed blitz, you bet your ass I think what SBP did to them was a speed blitz as well.

A defensive speed blitz is still a speed blitz.

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I just remember him running through groups of them using heat vision and cold breath then shattering their remains at super speed. srug

I know you never said that. That's why I said "anyone saying that... "... meaning not you in particular. On a normal basis, he doesn't really need to. However, if an opportunity arises where he needs to use a blitz or combat speed, he obviously can.

I said to you earlier that he doesn't need to use speed blitzes in fights because the power aspect about him more than takes care of that. That doesn't mean he can't, however. All I've been saying is that he can, and has pulled off a blitz before. My intention was not to say that Prime will blitz every person he encounters in forum fights. 🙂

Of course, but it's not a viable tactic in forum battles unless he's fighting speedsters.
A 'defensive blitz' is just what it sounds like. It's not like he's entering battles and overwhelming people with speed right off the bat... which is what we're led to believe when people say it.
When you're getting your face punched in, of course it's a thought to punch back... and he wouldn't enter that mindset in a regular battle... unless he was getting his face punched in... which is exactly what a speedster like Flash, or Runner, etc would try... not what Thanos, or Takion would do (which is why it was brought up).
Can a defensive blitz really be brought up to say he could/would speed blitz someone? 😬

All Prime did was freeze them, and then ran straight through them (bullrush apparently when people bring up others doing the same), and then HV'ed a bunch of them after he stopped.

Well... I was the only one talking about his speed... and it didn't pertain to anyone else...
Where he needs to defend himself... or show his reflexes is more like it based on the scans... not often though...

I know.
When he was on the defensive. If he's fighting speedsters, then it would be a relevant scan.
However, when I was responding to the person earlier, that was his intention, so...