Rune King Thor vs Darkseid W/ALE

Started by quanchi1127 pages

Originally posted by Utrigita
The way I was reading this is that you where Telling Galan that Darkseid couldn't resist the at all ALE because he shot himself, which has nothing to do with what Galan brought forth, which was that Darkseids Soul and mind couldn't be broken and only resisted the control because he understood a part of it, a understanding that RKT doesn't have.

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He could resist it mentally. He couldnt break his will or his mind. But if someone with the ale told Ds to hurt himself he would have no choice and would do it again just like he shot himself in the head when Orion told him to. Galan claimed that Darkseid could resist hurting himself and that someone would have to injure him because Darkseid wouldnt injure himself.

But you agree with me. 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
He could resist it mentally. He couldnt break his will or his mind. But if someone with the ale told Ds to hurt himself he would have no choice and would do it again just like he shot himself in the head when Orion told him to. Galan claimed that Darkseid could resist hurting himself and that someone would have to injure him because Darkseid wouldnt injure himself.

But you agree with me. 😛

Actually, that arguement goes both ways. And it shoots you in the foot. Because either way, RKT won't be able to resist the ALE.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
either way, RKT won't be able to resist the ALE.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
He could resist it mentally. He couldnt break his will or his mind. But if someone with the ale told Ds to hurt himself he would have no choice and would do it again just like he shot himself in the head when Orion told him to. Galan claimed that Darkseid could resist hurting himself and that someone would have to injure him because Darkseid wouldnt injure himself.

But you agree with me. 😛

Well I'm just waiting to hear what exactly Galan is saying he was saying, and why where you bringing forth the fact that Darkseid resisted the ALE when Orion had the ALE, you clearly states that

"In his series before the Black racer incident. He told Darkseid to kill himself and he didnt."

I assume he is Orion.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Actually, that arguement goes both ways. And it shoots you in the foot. Because either way, RKT won't be able to resist the ALE.
I have also seen dead beings refuse to give into the ale. So there are powers out there that can defy in a way the ale. I think the runes and the might of Thor get the job done here. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have also seen dead beings refuse to give into the ale. So there are powers out there that can defy in a way the ale. I think the runes and the might of Thor get the job done here. 🙂

They killed themselves... because they didn't want to give up the secret because they knew they couldn't resist the ALE for long...

Originally posted by Utrigita
They killed themselves... because they didn't want to give up the secret because they knew they couldn't resist the ALE for long...
An outside force had them resist it. That is my point.

Originally posted by quanchi112
An outside force had them resist it. That is my point.

Which outside force??? One besides a person with knowlegde resisted it the others killed themselves because they couldn't resist the ALE.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have also seen dead beings refuse to give into the ale. So there are powers out there that can defy in a way the ale. I think the runes and the might of Thor get the job done here. 🙂

🤨 You're an idiot. There's only 2 explanations for that. Either Scott Free is nuts and he was fighting (unknowingly) his own ALE-backed command, or as Nvr said, it's the Source itself acting via an agent doing the killing.

An outside force, that Thor will NEVER approach in power.

You can't seriously claim Thor can match 'The Source'......? shocklaugh That's idiotic, even for you.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
🤨 You're an idiot. There's only 2 explanations for that. Either Scott Free is nuts and he was fighting (unknowingly) his own ALE-backed command, or as Nvr said, it's the Source itself acting via an agent doing the killing.

An outside force, that Thor will NEVER approach in power.

You can't seriously claim Thor can match 'The Source'......? shocklaugh That's idiotic, even for you.

Quit speculating. How can he be fighting his own ale-backed command. 😆 I cant believe you said that.

How do you know its the source. You dont so quit assuming and passing it on as fact.

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It happened in Death of the New Gods.

Scott Free tried to question these dead new gods and they wouldn't tell him who killed them.

Yes. and only the Source, or the ALE, could force the dead to not speak.

Thats the way I see it too but I'm not exactly a expert on DC

We don't know what caused them not to speak, and it is speculation until we do.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Yes. and only the Source, or the ALE, could force the dead to not speak.
Has it been established that its the source. Dont you think the writers can come up with anything the want. But you assume its the source with no proof, its one of nvers assumptions that has failed to be proven yet.

if it's not the Source, why is Darkseid saying that the death of the new gods is inevitable? Why is he meeting death with a straight face? Why is he unconcerned about it and viewing it as a natural event, and equating it to the 3rd World that preceded the 4th? 😉

Since when is DS omniscient and infallible?

Originally posted by Mindset
Since when is DS omniscient and infallible?
Exactly. 🙂

According to some on here he sadly is.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
if it's not the Source, why is Darkseid saying that the death of the new gods is inevitable? Why is he meeting death with a straight face? Why is he unconcerned about it and viewing it as a natural event, and equating it to the 3rd World that preceded the 4th? 😉
Because the new gods are like sitting ducks and cant avoid their fates. I think its rather amusing how helpless they are. Makes perfect sense to me I mean I recall when Doomsday made the Apokoliptians feel helpless as well. Darkseid called him unbeatable. 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
Because the new gods are like sitting ducks and cant avoid their fates. I think its rather amusing how helpless they are. Makes perfect sense to me I mean I recall when Doomsday made the Apokoliptians feel helpless as well. Darkseid called him unbeatable. 😆
The lengths you'll go to bash a character, is so amusing. 🙂