Silver Surfer(exiles) vs Orion

Originally posted by quanchi112
I said the first sentence as a joke to the hypocritical posting that is going on here against exiles Surfer. You already said that the main universe is different from this universe but now you want to count the champions as pussies just because they were pussies in 616. Yet Gladiator has no feats and was a pussy to right because he got oneshotted. So basically according to you this earth was full of pussies and the whole universe was pussies. Featless pussies right?

Actually, in all of Marvel Champions of 1000 worlds is a meaningless title. I've never seen anyone resembling this title do anything worth while in Marvel. Plus, I also added that little fact as a hypothetical. 'No feats' should be enough, but I thought if you would see others with the same claim, you would change your mind. No such luck. Just an attempt to discredit everything that doesn't fit.
Hell, even if your logic does fit in there, the Centurions, and the others don't even have anything to compare each other to. It wasn't linking, it was giving examples of this title meaning dogshit.

I said the Centurions were pussies, and they had the same title (therefore giving an example of this precious title being a nothing, a non factor). I've never said Gladiator was a pussy... I asked for proof of him being close to 616 Glads. I've asked for proof of any of these characters being powerful. I didn't ask for hype and statements.
You pass these characters off as being the most powerful ever with nothing supporting it. And why? To prove that your precious 'badass' Surfer is grand, and will absolutely rape 616 Surfer and a lot opposing him.

Like really, because he destroyed the Earth (off panel) that means something?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
What the f*ck are you talking about?

Actually, in all of Marvel Champions of 1000 worlds is a meaningless title. I've never seen anyone resembling this title do anything worth while in Marvel. Plus, I also added that little fact as a hypothetical. 'No feats' should be enough, but I thought if you would see others with the same claim, you would change your mind. No such luck. Just an attempt to discredit everything that doesn't fit.
Hell, even if your logic does fit in there, the Centurions, and the others don't even have anything to compare each other to. It wasn't linking, it was giving examples of this title meaning dogshit.

I said the Centurions were pussies, and they had the same title (therefore giving an example of this precious title being a nothing, a non factor). I've never said Gladiator was a pussy... I asked for proof of him being close to 616 Glads. I've asked for proof of any of these characters being powerful. I didn't ask for hype and statements.
You pass these characters off as being the most powerful ever with nothing supporting it. And why? To prove that your precious 'badass' Surfer is grand, and will absolutely rape 616 Surfer and a lot opposing him.

Like really, because he destroyed the Earth (off panel) that means something?

The story imo set out to show what an evil Surfer could do. you can argue till your blue in the face about what he did but the fact remains on panel we saw him crush the opposition until Sabretooth got involved.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well obviously in this universe all who opposed him would have fallen. Except for Sabretooth and the power cosmic this Surfer would have won.

The story imo set out to show what an evil Surfer could do. you can argue till your blue in the face about what he did but the fact remains on panel we saw him crush the opposition until Sabretooth got involved.

An opposition with no feats.

Originally posted by llagrok
An opposition with no feats.

Originally posted by quanchi112
😆 Ok this is getting nowhere. Prime has been crushing heroes in other universes with no feats but we still give him credit. The same credit should be given here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
😆 Ok this is getting nowhere. Prime has been crushing heroes in other universes with no feats but we still give him credit. The same credit should be given here.

We do not use THOSE feats in debates.

We use him crushing Monitors.

Originally posted by llagrok
We do not use THOSE feats in debates.

We use him crushing Monitors.

The one he's bitchslapping in Countdown. Not to mention his smashing through Sin Corp and GL members during the Sinestro Corp war. Those are actual feats. And he's busted a planet on-panel and moved another planet so fast no one could see him do it at the time.

So Exiles Surfer busts one earth off-panel. I guess beating a bunch of featless wonders is enough to put him over characters with proven records and legit feats. 🙄

He can't even beat regular Surfer and most of the Shiar Guard are crap anyway. None of them are a match for Orion, who IMO, could probably do what Exiles Surfer did and thrash them.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The one he's bitchslapping in Countdown. Not to mention his smashing through Sin Corp and GL members during the Sinestro Corp war. Those are actual feats. And he's busted a planet on-panel and moved another planet so fast no one could see him do it at the time.

So Exiles Surfer busts one earth off-panel. I guess beating a bunch of featless wonders is enough to put him over characters with proven records and legit feats. 🙄

He can't even beat regular Surfer and most of the Shiar Guard are crap anyway. None of them are a match for Orion, who IMO, could probably do what Exiles Surfer did and thrash them.

Orion couldnt do what exiles Surfer did. The power cosmic is greater than the over rated astro force.

Exiles Surfer crushes Orion.