Superman Prime vs Darkseid

Started by quanchi1123 pages

Originally posted by LORD B
the term 'pre crisis darkseid' is just an excuse so that his jobbing and crap showing are excluded from debates.
I know its just funny the lengths some posters will go to for Darkseid. They really want to wipe all of his losses out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He still got beat by Firestorm in those precrisis days. Also, there is no precrisis Darkseid. He hasnt changed at all. Prime wins.
Orly? I recall Firestorm deflecting the oe and nothing more.

Prime rips him apart limb by limb.

Originally posted by Hazsekswthurmom
Orly? I recall Firestorm deflecting the oe and nothing more.
It doest matter anyways. Ds cant beat Prime and there is no such thing as precrisis. 🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
It doest matter anyways. Ds cant beat Prime and there is no such thing as precrisis. 🙂

NOW I have to say something. The crisis may not exist for the new gods, but denying that it exists at all? This is rediculous, even for you. 👇

DS can't beat Prime currently (I doubt anyone under abstract can, certainly not Thanos 😉 ) but pre-powerup? It's within his abilities.

Hazeks: It wasn't the OE. It was the Omega Force, the pure energy itself. It's his most powerful attack and rarely used. Firestorm to date, is the only person to ever manipulate or deflect it.

Just ask yourself if Prime could rip apart Classic Validus, PC Supes, PC Mongul, the Omega, PC Mon-EL....etc.. The answer is...he can't. These guys are much stronger than he is. As strong as Prime is...he still can't match a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian or Daxamite....strength, speed..or otherwise.

Classic Kirby DS bitchslapped guys like this on a regular basis. The thread starter wanted to use the most powerful version of DS. Even though, DS was never affected by the Crisis...we all know that he was much more powerful prior to the Crisis.

DS wins.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Just ask yourself if Prime could rip apart Classic Validus, PC Supes, PC Mongul, the Omega, PC Mon-EL....etc.. The answer is...he can't. These guys are much stronger than he is. As strong as Prime is...he still can't match a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian or Daxamite....strength, speed..or otherwise.

Classic Kirby DS bitchslapped guys like this on a regular basis. The thread starter wanted to use the most powerful version of DS. Even though, DS was never affected by the Crisis...we all know that he was much more powerful prior to the Crisis.

DS wins.

saying a charcter at his most powerful like darksied is just a reason to disregard his loses and poor showing.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
NOW I have to say something. The crisis may not exist for the new gods, but denying that it exists at all? This is rediculous, even for you. 👇

DS can't beat Prime currently (I doubt anyone under abstract can, certainly not Thanos 😉 ) but pre-powerup? It's within his abilities.

Hazeks: It wasn't the OE. It was the Omega Force, the pure energy itself. It's his most powerful attack and rarely used. Firestorm to date, is the only person to ever manipulate or deflect it.

Darkseid's power levels havent changed at all. He was written more powerful back in the precrisis days but nowadays is diet Darkseid. He is nothing compared to wha he used to be. We agree he loses here and this thread isnt about what some perceive as precrisis Darkseid. Its current and he gets beaten down.

Originally posted by LORD B
saying a charcter at his most powerful like darksied is just a reason to disregard his loses and poor showing.
Exactly.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Just ask yourself if Prime could rip apart Classic Validus, PC Supes, PC Mongul, the Omega, PC Mon-EL....etc.. The answer is...he can't. These guys are much stronger than he is. As strong as Prime is...he still can't match a Pre-Crisis Kryptonian or Daxamite....strength, speed..or otherwise.

Classic Kirby DS bitchslapped guys like this on a regular basis. The thread starter wanted to use the most powerful version of DS. Even though, DS was never affected by the Crisis...we all know that he was much more powerful prior to the Crisis.

DS wins.

Its current Ds and his power level didnt change, Prime stomps him.

Yes, but when you bring up poor showings from Thanos...or other characters...they all get dismissed...and that isn't right. Darkseid's highest level feats are higher than anything Thanos, Prime, or most other characters have ever performed...under their own power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its current Ds and his power level didnt change, Prime stomps him.

ok...well, let me know when Prime has the power to wreck a PC Kryptonian or Daxamite...the way Darkseid has done.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
ok...well, let me know when Prime has the power to wreck a PC Kryptonian or Daxamite...the way Darkseid has done.
Yet Darkseid cant beat Superman now since hes become much much weaker. Prime wins and I think I am in the majority here.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Yes, but when you bring up poor showings from Thanos...or other characters...they all get dismissed...and that isn't right. Darkseid's highest level feats are higher than anything Thanos, Prime, or most other characters have ever performed...under their own power.
Which feats are you talking about? Be specific please.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which feats are you talking about? Be specific please.

Any Thanos loss....or setback...take your pick.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Any Thanos loss....or setback...take your pick.
Uhm I was asking you to talk about Darkseid's high feats, this isnt about Thanos.

Mind control 3 billion Daxamites...pwn the Losh...defeated Classic Validus with the wave of his hand. Beat down Highfather. He made the Spectre howl in pain. Beat up on PC Kryptonians....all of whom would beat the shit out of Thanos. Thanos, Prime, and most other characters can not match these kinds of feats without some kind of relic or power up.

Go to the DS respect thread to read more....and you tell me....how many other beings Galactus level and below...can match Darkseid's feats...under their OWN power.

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Mind control 3 billion Daxamites...pwn the Losh...defeated Classic Validus with the wave of his hand. Beat down Highfather. He made the Spectre howl in pain. Beat up on PC Kryptonians....all of whom would beat the shit out of Thanos. Thanos, Prime, and most other characters can not match these kinds of feats without some kind of relic or power up.

Go to the DS respect thread to read more....and you tell me....how many other beings Galactus level and below...can match Darkseid's feats...under their OWN power.

Gds isnt canon my friend. The Spectre howled in pain from a Batkick lol. Black Adam danced on his face. Darkseids power hasnt changed like I said but he isnt anywhere near what he was 25 years ago. 😬

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
Yes, but when you bring up poor showings from Thanos...or other characters...they all get dismissed...and that isn't right. Darkseid's highest level feats are higher than anything Thanos, Prime, or most other characters have ever performed...under their own power.

prime beat up and tortured mxy not a bad feat totally beat the shit out of ion,slapping a moniter around for fun plus the whole infinite crisis.

*off topic*
this has nothing to do with thanos,but his high end feat like the hotu,ig,defeating the beyonder(who was in physical form) are impressive.name thanos poor showings?squirrel girl,never loses,drax killing thanos drax, said he was the only one who could kill thanos its what he was made to do. what else?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Spectre howled in pain from a Batkick lol.

Did you read the issue or simply just looked at the scan? 😬