Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Actually, I think Hulk at that time possessed nexus-energies, derived from imminent Celestial Franklin Richards' pocket universe (Heroes Reborn). The Celestial tech I believe helped focus those energies or something.
and even before that story, you've got The Beyonder and The Stranger saying pretty much the same thing - along the lines of the Celestial Tech - that his powers are in a higher league, even if he doesn't manifest them to any great extent.
as for the tech 'focussing' his powers, that's not the point... he still has access to the same immense powers, just that he prevents himself from using them.
Originally posted by janus77Umm... holy f*cking shit? 😕 🤨
Juggernaut didn't even feel Thor's Godblast, I think it reasonable to assume that Hulk, sufficiently pissed off (ala WWH arc) wouldn't be affected much.
Originally posted by janus77Ah, so because the tech says this, it makes it true? Plus, wasn't War Hulk essentially that very weapon? And that very weapon didn't look so hot, and really looked like nothing compared to a Celestial. I also like how Apoc said "may". Meaning it's not definitive.
lol,
Apocalypse doesn't need to be their guidance counsellor, all he needs to do is convey what the CELESTIAL TECHNOLOGIES tell him about Hulk.
which is that Hulk's energies (A REGULAR HULK) are of such an immenseness that they may prove significant to The Celestials. FROM THIS HE POSTULATES that it may provide him with the means of overpowering The Celestials. I guess that's a complex statement to digest, for some.
Also, Apoc is still a tool.
WWH also showed nothing on the level of a Celestial anyway.
And isn't Hulk's energies essentially Gamma Radiation? Or that supposed 'two universe' thing?
Originally posted by Bransolute
Umm... holy f*cking shit? 😕 🤨Ah, so because the tech says this, it makes it true? Plus, wasn't War Hulk essentially that very weapon? And that very weapon didn't look so hot, and really looked like nothing compared to a Celestial.
Also, Apoc is still a tool.
WWH also showed nothing on the level of a Celestial anyway.
And isn't Hulk's energies essentially Gamma Radiation? Or that supposed 'two universe' thing?
seriously, it's only comics...
Originally posted by janus77Blah, blah, blah...
again, breathe, cool down and read slowly, it may be a little bit tricky to process in one go ...seriously, it's only comics...
I know it's only comics, but it doesn't make certain conversations about them any less dumb. If it's a stupid statement, it's a stupid statement... comics or not. 🙂
did you all skip english at school?
why the poor reading comprehension?
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
At that time, Hulk was tapping into the energies of the Heroes Reborn pocket dimension.
Hulk was doing that before too, thus the comments by Beyonder and Stranger.
and also, has it been stated whether or not Hulk's 'lost' those energies?
as far as I can see, these 'points' don't really make any difference to things.
Thor wins, bottom line. Thor with all his powers and abilities will owned WWH as much I love the Hulk, Thor can be an a$$hole and destroy the planet and call it a day. Thor in the past has always fought Hulk on his level and never cut lose on him, if Thor not holding back then Hulk is one dead superhero.
Originally posted by janus77
and also, has it been stated whether or not Hulk's 'lost' those energies?
Obviously he has... 😐
Physically Hulk was a connection with the Heroes Reborn Universe. He had pieces on both sides with Banner trapped in the other universe. As a result he became a nexus for energies passing between universes. As time went on, more and more energy was flowing into his body, causing him excruciating pain; he even spontaneously passed out more than once. While his body physically deteriorated, his strength increased, but his mind grew more muddled. As a result of missing Banner, he began to suffer illusions and hallucinations of his father haunting him. In the end, Hulk was rejoined with Banner and returned back to the normal Marvel universe, and of course lost these energies.
Originally posted by B.AI agree.
The reason he doesn't use it is because the writers don't like him to win fights so easy. But in this forum he would because he has shown to use it when he has to. He will use it on Hulk and get the win.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Obviously he has... 😐Physically Hulk was a connection with the Heroes Reborn Universe. He had pieces on both sides with Banner trapped in the other universe. As a result he became a nexus for energies passing between universes. As time went on, more and more energy was flowing into his body, causing him excruciating pain; he even spontaneously passed out more than once. While his body physically deteriorated, his strength increased, but his mind grew more muddled. As a result of missing Banner, he began to suffer illusions and hallucinations of his father haunting him. In the end, Hulk was rejoined with Banner and returned back to the normal Marvel universe, and of course lost these energies.
the trouble is, Hulk's still infused with infinite powers from a Universe/Dimension... which, as I said before, made both The Beyonder and The Stranger notice and comment. Beyonder saw a likeness in the infinite energies, Stranger just raphsodised about the beauty of his plan to use Hulk's 'virtually limitless' energies to destroy the world...
so, what's changed with the merger of the Banner and Hulk aspects again? we know he still possess energies without limit and can open the tap up to such levels that he shatters worlds, should he so want.
Originally posted by janus77😂
have you got a more definitive scan than that?
say of the last scene you mention?the trouble is, Hulk's still infused with infinite powers from a Universe/Dimension... which, as I said before, made both The Beyonder and The Stranger notice and comment. Beyonder saw a likeness in the infinite energies, Stranger just raphsodised about the beauty of his plan to use Hulk's 'virtually limitless' energies to destroy the world...
so, what's changed with the merger of the Banner and Hulk aspects again? we know he still possess energies without limit and can open the tap up to such levels that he shatters worlds, should he so want.
This forum has got Hulk fanboy issues. Hulk has not got the feats that beat Superman not straight away. Not the durability, not the speed or the fighting skill or smarts. Yet somehow he wins.
Originally posted by B.A
😂This forum has got Hulk fanboy issues. Hulk has not got the feats that beat Superman not straight away. Not the durability, not the speed or the fighting skill or smarts. Yet somehow he wins.