Batman vs. Reed Richards

Reed's mind is uber, in fact, it's cosmic.

The entire Marvel Omniverse was re-built with his mental guidance.

Reed has gone to "Hell" to "Heaven"

Reed a lesser alternate) became an aspect of Eternity (an entire Universe)

Reed managed to pull a fast one on the LT.
(I know, Btaman ko'd Spectre) Both make me 😂

If Reed wanted,
with his tech ... he could conquer/destroy the entire Marvel Omniverse anytime.
(just an alternate (Not "What if" garbage) of his can ... so imagine the 616 template)

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I'm just giving persepctive yall ...

Who wins?

I don't know.

Originally posted by Mr Master
(I know, Btaman ko'd Spectre) Both make me 😂

Never happened..

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Myth: Batman's kick hurt Spectre
Tales of the Unexpected #4
How many times did we hear that Batman hurt the Spectre with the bat-kick? To many to count, but in reality it did nothing and Sprectre even mentions he made to make Batman feel good about the situation as it was hopeless for him.

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Like I said before, there's a difference between being book smart and being cunning.

Common sense is a stranger to Reed Richards... he has Aspergers.

Kinda like how Einstein wasn't able to tie his shoes until he was 12.

Originally posted by batdude123
"Let's piss off the Hulk. What could go wrong?"

The WWH storyline. That's what could go wrong.

Let me leave yet another set a plans unlocked so Spolier can steal them.

😖hifty:

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Originally posted by batdude123
"Let's piss off the Hulk. What could go wrong?"

The WWH storyline. That's what could go wrong.

Pretty skewed view of actually events...

Originally posted by Mindset
Pretty skewed view of actually events...

We can't kill it. It feeds on anger. It has a tendency to get back home and always holds a grudge.

Let's shoot into space and not check up on what happens.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
We can't kill it. It feeds on anger. It has a tendency to get back home and always holds a grudge.

Let's shoot into space and not check up on what happens.

Still distorted.

Yes, let's just ignore the fact that the reason Hulk came back to Earth was because Miek blew up the planet and let Hulk believe it was Reed and co... 😐

And they could have killed him, but they opted to send him away instead.

Batman wins.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Never happened..

On a ready, set, go, fight (with no prep) I guess Bats wins, I wouldn't know,
although Reed is pretty impressive in hand to hand combat,
I think cats are sleeping on him, and his incredibly versatile body.

But anyways, I really won't debate that.

Now with prep,

imo, Reed rules all ... well definitely in Marvel. (yes, including Doom)

Cats? 🤨

Originally posted by Mr Master
I think cats are sleeping on him, and his incredibly versatile body.

. . .

Well that's a cool fetish.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That's unfortunate ... cause Reed really did pull a fast one on the LT.

On a ready, set, go, fight (with no prep) I guess Bats wins, I wouldn't know,
although Reed is pretty impressive in hand to hand combat,
I think cats are sleeping on him, and his incredibly versatile body.

But anyways, I really won't debate that.

Now with prep,

imo, Reed rules all ... well definitely in Marvel. (yes, including Doom)

I agree.

I disagree.

And Thanos > Reed

Originally posted by batdude123
Like I said before, there's a difference between being book smart and being cunning.

Common sense is a stranger to Reed Richards... he has Aspergers.

It's true that these days the writers have made him this way. It wasn't always the case though. For most of his history he did actually show a lot of talent for strategy and off-the-cuff thinking even in the middle of battles. I think the later writers decided a personality shift would be more interesting. It wasn't particularly - they just made him annoying.

And the modern Batman has been given his own brand of psychological problems - a complete inability to maintain any successful relationship with another human being, little ability to have a normal conversation with anyone, monomania, obsession etc. Plus a seeming inability to apply common sense to his own plans - for example even Homer Simpson probably could have anticipated what would go wrong with Brother Eye, the JLA protocols etc. But Batman was too obsessed to see it (last I saw was that Eye seems to be becoming a galactic level threat - that must trump WWH, Clor & Pym's creation of Ultron combined).

They both have their weaknesses to exploit.

I'd still go 50/50 here but only because Batman has some dangerous standard weapons like gas/freeze capsules/tasers etc that might be able to tag Reed.

Originally posted by basilisk
It's true that these days the writers have made him this way. It wasn't always the case though. For most of his history he did actually show a lot of talent for strategy and off-the-cuff thinking even in the middle of battles. I think the later writers decided a personality shift would be more interesting. It wasn't particularly - they just made him annoying.

And the modern Batman has been given his own brand of psychological problems - a complete inability to maintain any successful relationship with another human being, little ability to have a normal conversation with anyone, monomania, obsession etc. Plus a seeming inability to apply common sense to his own plans - for example even Homer Simpson probably could have anticipated what would go wrong with Brother Eye, the JLA protocols etc. But Batman was too obsessed to see it (last I saw was that Eye seems to be becoming a galactic level threat - that must trump WWH, Clor & Pym's creation of Ultron combined).

They both have their weaknesses to exploit.

I'd still go 50/50 here but only because Batman has some dangerous standard weapons like gas/freeze capsules/tasers etc that might be able to tag Reed.

Reeds is smart but applying that to H2H combat is a different thing. Sure his smarts will work to an extent but Bats is more intelligent than Reed in this department.

is Reed nekkid ? because if not Reed has some standard gear of his own that will help him in neutralizing some of Batman's equipment. and Reed has stood his ground up to some of marvel's heavy hitters (Thor, Hulk, Namor, and even won a couple of fights. ) Reed has some impressive tactical prowess (he lead the FF in numerious adventures) and his powerset is nothing to sneeze at.

I'd take Reed. More times than not he could restrain and or smother Batman before he could pose a counter offensive.

Also, in regards to Reed being "book smart" versus "common sense smart", it's really a non issue because he's proven time and time again that he's combat smart and can think under fire and form solutions on the fly.

Reed would make Bruce get shocked by his own suit... Or something. There are several easy counter attacks that Reed could use against Bruce if attacked in a certain way, its kind of a coin toss depending in what Bruce decides to use.