Originally posted by CaptainStoicSounds like speculation. Juggernaut seems to be affected by telepathy and even sonics. Once the helmet comes off, I think Surfer could force him to sleep.
Surfer will lose this if he takes him on toe to toe. The mystical barrier that juggernaut has will not be affected in the least by the power cosmic.
If you meant that Surfer won't be able to knock Juggs into submission, then I agree. There are almost no characters who can physically beat classic Juggs senseless.
Classic is history Cain has all of his power back. He also has the might to crush Norrin. Speculation you say? How will SS remove the mask beneath the helm? in fights like this one its a give and take. SS has never been shown to battle at hyper sonic speeds.... If he gets the chance to remove the helmet why wouldn't Juggernaut get the chance to grab him? What!!! Can the power cosmic somehow melt his armor from him in ways that Thor's goblast could not???
I have read many SS comics and since when was he able to fire off psychic blasts? i know he has a high resistance to TP users but he has never shown that he can manipulate a persons mind or emotions, using his brain.
Juggernaut will stomp him.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Classic is history Cain has all of his power back. He also has the might to crush Norrin. Speculation you say? How will SS remove the mask beneath the helm? in fights like this one its a give and take. SS has never been shown to battle at hyper sonic speeds.... If he gets the chance to remove the helmet why wouldn't Juggernaut get the chance to grab him? What!!! Can the power cosmic somehow melt his armor from him in ways that Thor's goblast could not???
I have read many SS comics and since when was he able to fire off psychic blasts? i know he has a high resistance to TP users but he has never shown that he can manipulate a persons mind or emotions, using his brain.Juggernaut will stomp him.
And has used telepathy a bunch of times. I believe that's how he learned English. Yeah, I know aliens seem to know English a lot but that was Surfer's reason.
Originally posted by janus77
it definitely would if his durability is anything to go by.I doubt WarHulk was reaching celestial levels when he pounded on Juggernaut. and we know Hulk wasn't even all that strong when he stopped Juggernaut...
Surfer can't lose this match, even a stalemate is highly improbable.
Not really, at best the Surfer could stalemate the Juggernaut. There is no way he is physically taking him out. Nor is the Surfer even remotely close to Celestial level, so I don't see why you would even bring that up, nor do we have any idea how strong War Hulk was.
Though War Hulk was able to stop the Juggernaut and swing him around, he was still incapable of actually killing the Juggernaut or knocking him out. There is no way the Surfer is physically beating Cain.
SS could probably increase his strenght to having actually more raw physical strenght than Juggeranut. But it's Juggs durabilty that is special.
Anyway, SS win easily, except if he goes hand to hand, which he wouldn't.
And also Juggernaut with his brute strneght wouldn't do any damage to SS.
SS has telepathy and wolud put him to sleep.
Juggernaut was stopped in his tracks by War Hulk - somthing that should supposedly never happen (but it happened- to the dismay of all Juggy fanboys out there) . Now if a celestially amped up Hulk can do the impossible I am sure a cosmic powered silver surfer will dispose of Juggernaut with minimum effort.
Originally posted by CaptainStoicHe has forced the Abomination to sleep. He could use the same technique on Juggernaut. Nimrod also has a sonics victory over Juggs and Surfer is more than capable of doing the same.
Classic is history Cain has all of his power back. He also has the might to crush Norrin. Speculation you say? How will SS remove the mask beneath the helm? in fights like this one its a give and take. SS has never been shown to battle at hyper sonic speeds.... If he gets the chance to remove the helmet why wouldn't Juggernaut get the chance to grab him? What!!! Can the power cosmic somehow melt his armor from him in ways that Thor's goblast could not???
I have read many SS comics and since when was he able to fire off psychic blasts? i know he has a high resistance to TP users but he has never shown that he can manipulate a persons mind or emotions, using his brain.
As for speculation, it is speculation indeed to think that Juggernaut would be fast enough to catch the Surfer under arena rules. It is not speculation to suggest that Surfer would be beaten if he fought only hand to hand. But then, there is no reason why the Surfer should fight HtH against Cain.