Crossover fights

Originally posted by batdude123
Hmm... true. However, that's Current Thor. He could possibly still have the Odin Force within him.

Anyway, in the Superman/Thor encounter, what Thor did was off panel. Could've been either/or. 🙂

And I there is no indication this Thor still has the Odin Force.

Originally posted by Newjak
Still you gotta admit if all Thor did was hit Superman with his Hammer than Superman cheap-shotted Thor 😛

Not at all... and I really don't wish to delve into why it wasn't a cheap shot with you.

Originally posted by Newjak
And there is no indication this Thor still has the Odin Force.

There's no indication of him not having the Odin Force either. Since we last saw Thor w/ the Odin Force, I wouldn't say it's a stretch to think that he has it now.

Originally posted by batdude123
Not at all... and I really don't wish to delve into why it wasn't a cheap shot with you.

There's no indication of him [b]not having the Odin Force either. Since we last saw Thor w/ the Odin Force, I wouldn't say it's a stretch to think that he has it now. [/B]

Your only reason for it not being a cheap-shot just went out the window B-dude 😛

Umm, if you go by that logic batdude. Then wouldn't Thor still have two eyes made out of gems?

Heck Thor even tells Tony that he simply isn't holding back.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Your only reason for it not being a cheap-shot just went out the window B-dude 😛

I can give you plenty of reasons why it wasn't a cheap shot, NJ. But once again, I hardly feel like getting into such a trivial matter.

Originally posted by Newjak
Umm, if you go by that logic batdude. Then wouldn't Thor still have two eyes made out of gems?

Heck Thor even tells Tony that he simply isn't holding back.

"Not holding back" doesn't mean that he lacks the OF.

We'll see where his power level is in the next few issues.

Yeah, saying Superman cheap-shotted Thor isn't really accurate at all.

Thor cheap-shotting Superman on the other hand...

Somehow this has turned into another Superman vs. Thor thread..Will these debates never stop ?

Yeah take it to the right thread.

Oh and I saw no cheap shot accept in 1#.

Originally posted by Accel
Yeah, saying Superman cheap-shotted Thor isn't really accurate at all.

Thor cheap-shotting Superman on the other hand...

I keep telling Batdude that the only reason Superman won was because Thor was trying to fight H2H with Superman to be honorable, and Superman on his back cheap shotted Thor with his Heat Vision and that is why Superman won. 😛

Personally I think it is just a pile of junk comic book throughout. In reality.

Of course Batdude thinks that Superman wins because 10/10 because Superman is to fast for Thor. Despite Thor already fighting people as fast or faster than Superman. Both in speed and reaction time 😛

But like I said first. I don't think Crossovers should be used in debates at all.

Why because 2 things end up happening in crossovers:

1) Company Bias can show through, just flat out Writer Bias.

2) The fights are often too short to convey an accurate battle between two people. In short a lot of PIS takes place. For instance Silver Surfer in one cross-over was able to undo what Mxy had done to Metropolis easily.

To be fair we also see Superman get hit by energy as well

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupermanandThorbrawlin2.jpg

First box of 2nd page.

What was the Spider-Man Batman cross over, did it have something to do with the Joker and Carnage?

Originally posted by Newjak
Of course Batdude thinks that Superman wins because 10/10 because Superman is to fast for Thor. Despite Thor already fighting people as fast or faster than Superman. Both in speed and reaction time 😛

You really don't get it, do you?

Originally posted by Newjak
1) Company Bias can show through, just flat out Writer Bias.

Kurt Busiek has written for Thor, Superman, Avengers, and JLA. He's about as non-biased of a writer that could've been chosen to handle that fight.

I agree the length of it sucked. However, he still conveyed his intentions in that fight. Superman>Thor.

Originally posted by batdude123
You really don't get it, do you?

Kurt Busiek has written for Thor, Superman, Avengers, and JLA. He's about as non-biased of a writer that could've been chosen to handle that fight.

I agree the length of it sucked. However, he still conveyed his intentions in that fight. Superman>Thor.

So then I guess Giantman can hit Flash.

Captain Marvel(Female Version) can drain Hal Jordan.

Wonderman can beat Hal Jordan

etc,etc,etc

😆

Newjak, please stop being such a biased Thor fanboy, thank you.

We have reason to believe that Thor has been restored to his classic strength level because his costume has changed, his eyes have been restored and he doesn't employ runes or directly use the Odin Force.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Newjak, please stop being such a biased Thor fanboy, thank you.

Unless you are willing to say Wonderman can beat Hal Jordan.

Or Tony Stark is a better builder than Batman.

Or that Ironman can hurt Superman with his Blasts.

Or that Radioactive Man can beat Superman
😖hifty:

Or I think you get my point 😆

And by the way Thor has already fought Speedsters as fast or faster than Superman in speed and reaction time 😛

Originally posted by *T*
To be fair we also see Superman get hit by energy as well

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupermanandThorbrawlin2.jpg

First box of 2nd page.

To be fair I don't see any energy around Supes, I see the energy coming from THOR's Hammer as it's swinging around.

😉

Originally posted by *T*
To be fair we also see Superman get hit by energy as well

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupermanandThorbrawlin2.jpg

First box of 2nd page.

PS I've already shown that when Thor hits people with his hammer a trail lightning can be seen after the person is knocked back 😛

Originally posted by Newjak

And by the way Thor has already fought Speedsters as fast or faster than Superman in speed and reaction time 😛

You keep on pointing out that Thor has faced speedsters as evidence for his superspeed. But you can see why that is so faulty logic.

Because by that logic, every one of Flash's enemies have superspeed reaction, and we know that's not true.

When Thor fights speedsters, they don't speedblitz him...hence why he can fight them at all.

Proof of Thor's speed would be an example of THOR using superspeed in a fight....merely fighting against an opponent capable of superspeed isn't proof that Thor is fast.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
You keep on pointing out that Thor has faced speedsters as evidence for his superspeed. But you can see why that is so faulty logic.

Because by that logic, every one of Flash's enemies have superspeed reaction, and we know that's not true.

When Thor fights speedsters, they don't speedblitz him...hence why he can fight them at all.

Proof of Thor's speed would be an example of THOR using superspeed in a fight....merely fighting against an opponent capable of superspeed isn't proof that Thor is fast.

And I was never trying to say Thor is as fast as Superman just that Superman's speed isn't anything Thor hasn't seen or dealt with before, and isn't the deciding factor in their fight.

Superman's overall physical superiority maybe but not just his speed.

but has Thor ever been show as a blur himself...that would be the only affirmative proof that he can be fast in a fight. Anyways, I'll agree to disagree.