World War Hulk/Silver Surfer vs Thor/Juggernaut

Originally posted by Kasper Gutman
No offence to WWH fans but he is the weak link in this match up.

Originally posted by Enyalus
😐 Seriously? Thor's Skyfather level now without holding back. Mjolnir would knock Hulk's head off with one blow. No version of the Hulk is a match for current Thor.

Thor isnt anywhere close to skyfather imo. Odin was on a whole other level. Its too hard to write Thor at that power level.

Rulk is superior in power to WWH, wasn't he? Sentry and WWH's energies combining, or some equally PIS-related incident.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Rulk is superior in power to WWH, wasn't he? Sentry and WWH's energies combining, or some equally PIS-related incident.

ABC logic isn't good. Who is to say that the updated Savage Hulk wasn't more powerful than WWH? Furthermore, Rulk was weakened when Savage Hulk one-shot him (that overheating nonsense), so it's not as though simply because Savage beat Rulk that Savage is stronger than Rulk.

Originally posted by Enyalus
ABC logic isn't good. Who is to say that the updated Savage Hulk wasn't more powerful than WWH? Furthermore, Rulk was weakened when Savage Hulk one-shot him (that overheating nonsense), so it's not as though simply because Savage beat Rulk that Savage is stronger than Rulk.

You really dont know anything about Hulk if you are claiming Savage Hulk is more powerful than WW Hulk.

Rulk gets weaker when he gets angrier while Hulk gets stronger. Its not nonsense its a part of the character that Loeb created.

WW Hulk imo would beat Thor down.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The writer of WW Hulk and in the story said he was the most powerful Hulk ever. He proved it when he came to earth and punked everyone who he faced.

You really dont know anything about Hulk if you are claiming Savage Hulk is more powerful than WW Hulk.

*grrs* Quan...I agree with what the writer of WWH said (if you're talking about World Breaker form). But, that was before Rulk and the new Savage Hulk, so what he said then doesn't carry over in the future. Up to that point, WWH was the strongest Hulk created. Definitely. Afterwards, not so sure - considering Rulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Rulk gets weaker when he gets angrier while Hulk gets stronger. Its not nonsense its a part of the character that Loeb created.

I don't get the point you were trying to make here. But I agree that Rulk gets weaker when angrier, that's a fact. So Savage Hulk knocking him down doesn't necessarily mean that Savage was stronger than Rulk, who knocked out Thor, thus leading to the logic that:

Savage > Rulk > Thor - and since the writer said WWH was the most powerful incarnation, then:

WWH > Savage > Rulk > Thor.

Since Rulk in actuality gets weaker when angry, while Savage Hulk was gaining strength (from being taunted), its very possible that Rulk's base greatly exceeds Savage Hulk's base and is even beyond WWH's...considering Rulk's showings of KOing a Watcher and anal raping Thor with Mjolnir.

Team 1 for the win, easy.

Surfer turns WWH into a Herald and then WWH solos team 2 in a trice.
or WWH beats the snot out of Thor while Surfer mindfvcks Juggernaut for the easy win.

Thor wielding the Odinforce and Mjolnir was able to rip a hole through a Desak-powered Destroyer and kill him.

If Thor doesn't hold back - WWH would be f*cked. Hard.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The writer of WW Hulk and in the story said he was the most powerful Hulk ever. He proved it when he came to earth and punked everyone who he faced.

You really dont know anything about Hulk if you are claiming Savage Hulk is more powerful than WW Hulk.

Rulk gets weaker when he gets angrier while Hulk gets stronger. Its not nonsense its a part of the character that Loeb created.

WW Hulk imo would beat Thor down.

Correct. Team 1 FTW. Jugg has the highest chances of getting BFR'd early, and Thor gets doubleteamed.

Thor's slightly my favorite character here but their is no way Thor won't want to go hand to hand with a warrior version of Hulk and then WWH will smack his extensions out. Juggernaut is not a factor.

Originally posted by Enyalus
*grrs* Quan...I agree with what the writer of WWH said (if you're talking about World Breaker form). But, that was before Rulk and the new Savage Hulk, so what he said then doesn't carry over in the future. Up to that point, WWH was the strongest Hulk created. Definitely. Afterwards, not so sure - considering Rulk.

I don't get the point you were trying to make here. But I agree that Rulk gets weaker when angrier, that's a fact. So Savage Hulk knocking him down doesn't necessarily mean that Savage was stronger than Rulk, who knocked out Thor, thus leading to the logic that:

Savage > Rulk > Thor - and since the writer said WWH was the most powerful incarnation, then:

WWH > Savage > Rulk > Thor.

Since Rulk in actuality gets weaker when angry, while Savage Hulk was gaining strength (from being taunted), its very possible that Rulk's base greatly exceeds Savage Hulk's base and is even beyond WWH's...considering Rulk's showings of KOing a Watcher and anal raping Thor with Mjolnir. [/B]

We have seen savage Hulk many times. to suggest that this savage Hulk was more powerful than WW Hulk is just plain laughable.

Rulk only beat Thor when he used his hammer. He also killed Abom with a giant lame gun. So,really him suckering a Watcher isnt enough for me to think he could take WW Hulk. WW Hulk was wrecking entire teams easily. Rulk was new and most didnt even know who he was but the moment the newness wore off. He lost twice in one single comic.

Suckering a Watcher and beating Thor with his own hammer dont prove he could even last 3 minutes with WW Hulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No,he was talking about WW Hulk during the run of the arc.

We have seen savage Hulk many times. to suggest that this savage Hulk was more powerful than WW Hulk is just plain laughable.

Rulk only beat Thor when he used his hammer. He also killed Abom with a giant lame gun. So,really him suckering a Watcher isnt enough for me to think he could take WW Hulk. WW Hulk was wrecking entire teams easily. Rulk was new and most didnt even know who he was but the moment the newness wore off. He lost twice in one single comic.

Suckering a Watcher and beating Thor with his own hammer dont prove he could even last 3 minutes with WW Hulk.

Okay. That's cool.

WWH still wouldn't last more than a minute against a Thor who wasn't holding back. His heat vision (or whatever kind of beam it was) not only turned Wolverine into nothing but an adamantium skeleton, but the sheer force of it was enough to actually distort and bend the adamantium in the process. Added to that is him using Mjolnir to punch a hole in the Desak-powered Destroyer's head. Do you really want to say that Hulk can resist having his head torn clean off?

But, I still say Hulk would be taking on Juggernaut first. They have a long rivalry, too, and don't like each other. Setting up Thor/Surfer.

Because Thor/WWH is just spite in Thor's favour.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Because Thor/WWH is just spite in Thor's favour.

WWH, with Surfer backing him is a walking nightmare for anyone.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Okay. That's cool.

WWH still wouldn't last more than a minute against a Thor who wasn't holding back. His heat vision (or whatever kind of beam it was) not only turned Wolverine into nothing but an adamantium skeleton, but the sheer force of it was enough to actually distort and bend the adamantium in the process. Added to that is him using Mjolnir to punch a hole in the Desak-powered Destroyer's head. Do you really want to say that Hulk can resist having his head torn clean off?

But, I still say Hulk would be taking on Juggernaut first. They have a long rivalry, too, and don't like each other. Setting up Thor/Surfer.

Because Thor/WWH is just spite in Thor's favour.

That was King Thor not current Thor. Huge difference.

Hulk has done well against Thor in the past so I so no reason why Hulk at his most powerful would lose this. WW Hulk would beat Thor imo.