how did vader become on with the force?

Started by JediRobin233 pages

qui gon learned it after he was dead. So, Anakin may have learned it the same way

Very quickly then. It took QGJ 10 years.

What if QGJ learned it when alive but never perfected it so never told anyone?

Then Anakin still did it very quickly.

Plus, why did he not bother to call Yoda for ten years? That must have been hard for Yoda... Ten years no flowers, no candy, not even a phone call.

Yoda knew it before he died, thats why he disappeared when he died. Vader's body didn't disappear, so he had to of learned it after he died. Yeah, that was pretty quick.
Its actually the other way around, It took Qui gon ten years to learn it. Or, perhaps your right, maybe Qui gon waited till after order 66 to tell Yoda. That would be pretty bad though. who would want a bunch of Jedi spirits running around. But, who knows the star was afterlife. Perhaps eventually all Jedi become spirits, theres only certain few who can communicate with the living.
Yoda says Qui gon 'learned' the path to immortality, then taught Obiwan how to commune with him. So when Yoda said 'path to immortalily' he may actually mean those who can communicate with the living..

If it took QGJ ten years to learn it...how did it take Anakin so little...maybe...after Anakin died on the Death Star and was on the light side, QGJ and Yoda could talk to him and teach it to him?

As we said: very quickly... It took OB1 some 20 years in the desert to learn it. Same with Yoda.

Anyway, I feel GL did away with tis too easily. A little the ROTJ style: quickly rush to the end.

And according to Rick McCallum, the official reading is that Vader's body DID disappear. Which I find BS because, why don't we see it then?

I am sure it wouldn't take OB1 the entire time on Tatooine to learn it.
Well...there wouldn't be much to see disappear, would there? all we would say is the face.

No. Obviously it's a big thing. It is like that in the movies "I shall become more powerful than you imagine", Yoda disappearing in a bed, and QGJ "has learned the path to immortaliy". And then, at the moment supreme, the redenption of Vader, we don't see. It just doesn't make sense.

No...your right...the whole saga is about Vader...you would think his redemption moment would be shown above all others...

Absolutely.

See? This is where I question GL.

You're entitled to. But don't go changing the canon in here.

I always thought that it was important for Vader's body to get burned, like a symbol of the empire disappearing. Anakin was so powerful with the force that he could 'find his way back from the netherworld of the force' much faster than qui-gon.

Symbolic of the burning/destruction of the Empire.

Originally posted by queeq
You're entitled to. But don't go changing the canon in here.

Speaking of canon...we are going to have another canon thing to talk about...it is a video game set between Ep. 3 and 4, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed...it says so in this article:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/starwars2007/news.html?sid=6185151

"The developers consulted heavily with George Lucas on the story and characters, to the point that what happens in The Force Unleashed is now considered Star Wars canon."

Hmmm... how odd. What does the Official Website say? That's what counts.

It doesn't count what GL says? 😂

Thank the Maker it does.

Then this still counts:

"The developers consulted heavily with George Lucas on the story and characters, to the point that what happens in The Force Unleashed is now considered Star Wars canon."

Well, one of the developers said that. I looked into it. No official word from Lucas though.