Theory Lich King Vs. Jedah, Pyron (20%) and Demitri

good for him....kain has the concept of nature at his disposal, the very concept itself he would be able to do anything under the word nature, he would raise a million forests in the name of the power of the concept and since he is running off an infnite magic source as balance guardian he wouldnt be under any regulation, think of a Eonar the Lifebinder only with the endless magic of the well of eternity, even Eonar is a embodiment of a concept, Kain is a master of a concept, he would be able to do monstrous things with Nature, but Lich with all this power could likely topple most of it

Malorne was one with nature 😐

lol, you might as well say that the DS gang can do nothin but kick and punch in this thread.

ALL their powers are gone...

Then the DS gang sucks.
Those limits are like.... nothing.
If all they can do is the things he removed, then they are kinda pathetic.

Originally posted by Lady Fox
Then the DS gang sucks.
Those limits are like.... nothing.
If all they can do is the things he removed, then they are kinda pathetic.

Originally posted by Darth Extecute
The only rules:
Lich King's soul can only be attacked/drained if his armor is removed.
No BFR
No galactic destruction/dimension ddestruction/world busting

Any of these things can be done easily by these characters (except Demetri) powerin them down to level where they can't even accomplish their normal feats really makes Lich King look like the one who sucks, to be honest.

Originally posted by Akuma Killer
Any of these things can be done easily by these characters (except Demetri) powerin them down to level where they can't even accomplish their normal feats really makes Lich King look like the one who sucks, to be honest.

So, what you are basically saying is that if they can not bust worlds, do BFR or drain his soul- they are chanceless?

Shame on you, Darth Extecute. You should not do spite threads.

Originally posted by Lady Fox
Malorne was one with nature 😐

being one with nature which is a concept is not the same power level as a being who has the very concept of what nature is at their calling

Originally posted by Lady Fox
So, what you are basically saying is that if they can not bust worlds, do BFR or drain his soul- they are chanceless?

Originally posted by Burning thought
being one with nature which is a concept is not the same power level as a being who has the very concept of what nature is at their calling

Explain this concept stuff then, how does it differ, in every detail, and give examples 🙂

Originally posted by Akuma Killer
Can the Theory Lich King attack souls, BFR, or destroy galaxies, universes or dimensions?

If taking depth, theory Lich King would be able to absorb a soul by using Frostmourne. Assuming he could somehow regain his shaman past, he could most likely corrupt the spiritual world- as far as that goes.

So he is able to do what they can not in this thread?

Frostmourne needs impact to take anything from the target, which forces Lich King to close combat.

Originally posted by Lady Fox
Frostmourne needs impact to take anything from the target, which forces Lich King to close combat.

Theory, the mind of Nerzhul, who is far more experienced in the black magic should be about to turn such features into a ranged style.

Or am i thinking of someone else....

Ner'Zhul got zero experience with the black magic, except for what has been applied to him by Kil'Jaeden 😛

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Explain this concept stuff then, how does it differ, in every detail, and give examples 🙂

it would diffrer in the fact if malorn was the emobdiment of nature itself, he would be an embodiment of what the concept displays and what you and i understand it as, wheras those who can control the concept itself as a concept, would be able to do anything at all with nature, anything you can possibly imagine to do with nature because they have the power over the concept itself, not just what the concept represents

think of it as this, the concept is the rule and nature is just part of the rule...the one who can control or is an embodiment of part of the rule is powerful and can do things with nature, however the one who has control over the concept itself can bend the rule and is empowered over what nature is, not just what it represenents

but just a theory, ime not sure but a concept is the very thing itself, one would be able to instantly grow a planets worth of forests and change the ways of nature through its power simply through concept

Originally posted by Lady Fox
Ner'Zhul got zero experience with the black magic, except for what has been applied to him by Kil'Jaeden 😛

I thought he became a warlock, isn't that why the spirits left him? It was his chioce to journey that path, in which he developed in....

Originally posted by Burning thought
it would diffrer in the fact if malorn was the emobdiment of nature itself, he would be an embodiment of what the concept displays and what you and i understand it as, wheras those who can control the concept itself as a concept, would be able to do anything at all with nature, anything you can possibly imagine to do with nature because they have the power over the concept itself, not just what the concept represents

think of it as this, the concept is the rule and nature is just part of the rule...the one who can control or is an embodiment of part of the rule is powerful and can do things with nature, however the one who has control over the concept itself can bend the rule and is empowered over what nature is, not just what it represenents

but just a theory, ime not sure but a concept is the very thing itself, one would be able to instantly grow a planets worth of forests and change the ways of nature through its power simply through concept

That's slightly confusing but i think i get it.

Now allow me another question:
What in theory gives Kain this power? as to say, what is the scource of this belief?

Though i'll make it clear right now Nature is among the worst weapons to use against Sargeras, as even the minions easily corrupted forests....

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I thought he became a warlock, isn't that why the spirits left him? It was his chioce to journey that path, in which he developed in....

The spirits abandoned Ner'Zhul because he abandoned them. Kil'Jaeden tricked Ner'Zhul to do things that the spirits would never have approved, that lead to the slaugther of thousands orcs. Even though it all-trough-all was Kil'Jaedens fault, the spirits ignored that fact and forever banished Ner'Zhul from the shaman nature.

He did not lose the spirits because of a path of power, but because he did the exact opposite thing that the spirits desired (Starting a war with the Draenei)

Originally posted by EvilAngel
That's slightly confusing but i think i get it.

Now allow me another question:
What in theory gives Kain this power? as to say, what is the scource of this belief?

Though i'll make it clear right now Nature is among the worst weapons to use against Sargeras, as even the minions easily corrupted forests....

the theory come from this

mortals, humans who the pillars were not created for had grand powers, and its unlikely perhaps nearly touching foolery that humans would have greater or equel power from something created especially for vampires and the fact that they are not supposed to have any of its power so Kain would have a bonus over their power, what they can do utriga has posted in the other thread

then it combines the nature that Kain has all the emblems, is gainging the boost or greater power at least over mortals since he is not only a vampire supposed to use the pillars power but also the scion who is the restorer of the pillars power and healing the land, also all the guardians get their power from the link to the balance guardian, the balance guardian would have this power go through him/her and into the other guardians, there are no more guardians and so kain would have the full power without spreading

so in theory, he would have the full concept power of the pillars elements, furthered by his vampiric heritige and his unique status as the Scion, and if hes going to restore the pillars, he must have a lot of power to do so to bring these concepts to fruit again so the planet does not die

but theory, and yes ime sure Sargerus is not going to be most troubles by nature but i was thinking of using it to harm the theory Lich king