Greatest single season nfl team...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Postseason domination is a huge factor. The Dolphins were also undefeated in 72 but would have gotten trounced by a number of teams. I put the 07 Pats up there but not in the top three. They should have decimated the Chargers. Their qb was banged up and their mvp wasnt in there. 🙂

89 Niners would have beaten the 85 Bears.

You haven't listened to a word I've said, have you?

Just because they aren't dominating every post season game, that doesn't make them any less of a team than the '85 Bears, because rather than being inferior to the Bears themselves; their opponents may have just been >>>> the team's the Bears played in 85.

Originally posted by Citizen V
You haven't listened to a word I've said, have you?

Just because they aren't dominating every post season game, that doesn't make them any less of a team than the '85 Bears, because rather than being inferior to the Bears themselves; their opponents may have just been >>>> the team's the Bears played in 85.

This year there hasnt been one dominating defense to scare anyone. The Steelers were number one right? Their defense gave up all kinds of points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well I feel this is relevant especially because we could have an undefeated team. I do not think the Pats are the greatest team of all time. I feel there are a few teams out there that were better.

Ill name them.

89 49ers
94 49ers
92 Cowboys
78 Steelers
85 Bears
84 49ers

the 78 steelers are the only team i see possibly beating the patriots.

none of those teams had the offense the patriots possess.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So even though the Pats havent thoroughly decimated the competition in the postseason you give them the nod. No one scored on the Bears tuill the Super Bowl. Thats called utter domination. The pats letting the Chargers hand around till the fourth quarter is pathetic. Rivers was beyond banged up and Lt sat out. The 89 niners and the 85 bears would stomp a mudhole in these Pats.

the thing the patriots have done is that they've adjusted to situations in order to win. tom brady didn't have a good game at passing on Sunday, so they gave it to Maroney who took care of it.

i don't think any of the great teams could "blow-out" every single team that came in their way.
all great teams will have bad games and not do as well as advertised, but what makes them great is that they find a way to win.

For the Patriots to go undefeated in such a competitive league is very impressive.

Originally posted by TheGame17
the 78 steelers are the only team i see possibly beating the patriots.

none of those teams had the offense the patriots possess.

Originally posted by TheGame17
the thing the patriots have done is that they've adjusted to situations in order to win. tom brady didn't have a good game at passing on Sunday, so they gave it to Maroney who took care of it.

i don't think any of the great teams could "blow-out" every single team that came in their way.
all great teams will have bad games and not do as well as advertised, but what makes them great is that they find a way to win.

For the Patriots to go undefeated in such a competitive league is very impressive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you kidding me. The 94 niners had a phenomenal offense and a pretty damn good defense. They had the second best rush defense that year and had Deion Sanders and a pretty good secondary. The pats defense would break against Young and his offense. The 89 niners lit up the scoreboard in the postseason. They utterly dominated while the Pats only put up 21 against the Chargers.Trust me the Pats are great but couldnt beat any of the teams I listed.

I understand, but the current league is competitive. You can't expect the patriots to score 40 to 50 points every single game.
DESPITE that, they still scored more points in a regular season than any other team in history.

Patriots have alot of weapons on the offense, such as the runnning with Maroney, deep pass to Moss, short pass to Welker, etc..
I agree their defense isn't on par, but its still one of the top defensive lines in the league.

I think they'd have enough to give those teams a run for their money.

tossup between the 78 steelers-heard a lot about them that they were dominating back then and 85 bears.

[QUOTE=10100520]Originally posted by guy222
[B]I'm biased....'99 Rams

the 99 Los Angeles Rams huh? 😉

People worry too much about records and stats. Sure, perfect seasons are nice. But there's a reason the undefeated Dolphins never enter the conversation, and probably weren't even as good as others from their era (like the Steelers' SB teams).

I prefer just looking at a team. Like the Pats. Great offense, but not built for cold weather and the defense is decent but probably not even that good. I think a good pass rush and running game would not just beat them but embarrass them. Most of the teams on this list would beat them soundly. But it's because they have a good O-line, great receivers, and a league who would rather get beat slowly as they drop 8 in coverage than actually blitz, that they win.

Best all time? Not hardly. I think last year's Colts, the previous year's Steelers, hell the previous year's Pats...would all beat them at least 6/10.

85 Bears for me. I also like the 96 Packers and the 98 Broncos. Not mentioned enough in these sorts of conversations....and both would line up against the teams you normally hear (89 Niners, 70-something Steelers, 90-something Boys, etc.) and play fine.

I'll agree with you on that one.

The Pats do have some glaring weaknesses.

I always will figure that if the Pats were in a tougher division, they would atleast lost 1 game. It's really hard for a team that has two good teams in it to win all 6 games. Look at thier division, the worst team in the league and top 5 worst team in the league.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
People worry too much about records and stats. Sure, perfect seasons are nice. But there's a reason the undefeated Dolphins never enter the conversation, and probably weren't even as good as others from their era (like the Steelers' SB teams).

I prefer just looking at a team. Like the Pats. Great offense, but not built for cold weather and the defense is decent but probably not even that good. I think a good pass rush and running game would not just beat them but embarrass them. Most of the teams on this list would beat them soundly. But it's because they have a good O-line, great receivers, and a league who would rather get beat slowly as they drop 8 in coverage than actually blitz, that they win.

Best all time? Not hardly. I think last year's Colts, the previous year's Steelers, hell the previous year's Pats...would all beat them at least 6/10.

85 Bears for me. I also like the 96 Packers and the 98 Broncos. Not mentioned enough in these sorts of conversations....and both would line up against the teams you normally hear (89 Niners, 70-something Steelers, 90-something Boys, etc.) and play fine.

Ok now when we swing back to the Pats. Sure their offense is all that but their defense lets teams drive on them all day. The offense slowed down dramatically against a Tomlinsonless Chargers team.

I think though digimark you left out some great niners teams. 84,89,94 comes to mind. 98 broncos I am impressed with you bringing them up because they were badass. Another team people forget about is the 91 redskins. They mauled teams as well. 86 Giants werent to shabby either.

Agreed quan. Though I try to leave out some of the obvious teams and attempt to give credit to those that I don't think get enough rep. But yeah, all those teams you mentioned are in the convo.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Agreed quan. Though I try to leave out some of the obvious teams and attempt to give credit to those that I don't think get enough rep. But yeah, all those teams you mentioned are in the convo.

Originally posted by quanchi112

The Giants are huge underdogs and if they win this could be the greatest upset in Nfl history.

While many would think that, I wouldn't.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Good points. ...is exactly why the Giants should win, and why I'm picking them to win. They are flat out, no doubt about it, no rocket science, so easy to see that a casual fan can tell are playing the better football. The Chargers w/o LT, Gates, and healthy Rivers, is like playing the Dolphins. And the Pats barely survived.

This is reminiscient to the Steelers going a couple of years ago when they beat 3 road teams and got hot at the right time to win the Super Bowl. The outcome "should" be no different.

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I'm goooood. 😄

Originally posted by BobbyD
While many would think that, I wouldn't.

Originally posted by BobbyD
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I'm goooood. 😄

Originally posted by quanchi112
They were big underdogs. All the announcers and analysts already practically proclaimed New England the champs.

...which absolutely infuriates me as to why there are so many stupid f**ks in sports broadcasting, analysts, coaching and GM spots.

Believe me: there are many Joe Schmo civilians out there who can go toe to toe with a lot of these people, who only have these jobs for who they know--not what they know.

Originally posted by BobbyD
...which absolutely infuriates me as to why there are so many stupid f**ks in sports broadcasting, analysts, coaching and GM spots.

Believe me: there are many Joe Schmo civilians out there who can go toe to toe with a lot of these people, who only have these jobs for who they know--not what they know.

Agreed.

Backup QB with 80 IQ always gets the nod over 30-year fan who devotes every Sunday to getting the most out of each and every game.

The reason? People typically don't want to be "told" about football by someone who's never played at the professional level.