Lucifer vs *insert Marvel character*

Originally posted by leonheartmm

strange comined all his artifacts to temporarily resist the power of the infinity gauntlett,

a scan was given,

i saw it,

your insignificant oppinion doesnt matter.

So Warlock used the Gems on Strange individually,
to present his reasons, but never was it intended to hurt Strange.

But Warlock, out of frustration, did attack Strange with the Power Gem,
Strange with prep, and all his Talismans combined,
got completely owned, (immediately)
and nearly destroyed by Warlock using the Power Gem alone.

(luckily Strange was able to reach Warlock through the Soul Gem, so Warlock decided to stop)

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Warlock NEVER used the IG on Strange.

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Warlock Never tried to hurt Strange,
he was trying to convince him to concede to his PLAN
of eradicating ALL Evil from the Universe.

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So he used the Gems INDIVIDUALLY (ONE by ONE) ON THEIR OWN!

On Strange, Pip and Gamora.

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Time Gem:

First: Warlock tries to make him see his PLAN in the Future:

"but IF TIME will Not make You reconsider Your Opposition to my Scheme"

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Space Gem:

Second: Warlock sends him deep in Space (into darkness), to scare Strange:

"Then if Time and Space hold No TERRORS for you"

(he only mentioned Time because he had just used it before, check the issue if you wish)

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Reality Gem:

Third: Warlock warps the Reality around them, attempting to mess with their senses:

"How do you Reason Out a defense, when Reason itself shift its stance?"

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Mind Gem:

Fourth: Warlock uses the Mind Gem:

"If my MIND GEM cannot seduce you from your purpose, THEN...I will Strike at You"

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The ONLY time Warlock actually tried to hurt Strange,
was WHEN he used the Power Gem .... the Power Gem, ALONE!

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Power Gem:

Strange with PREP and All his Talismans combined gets owned easily:

"But Knowing in ADVANCE that Warlock Possessed it" (Power Gem)

"I had Arranged for ALL My TALISMANS to Act TOGETHER to COUNTERACT it"

"Which even I KNOW, almost at once, CANNOT LONG ENDURE"

(and this is ONLY the Power Gem)

"Warlock STILL has NOT used his Sixth and Final Weapon"

SEE, Warlock was USING the Gems SEPARATELY!

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Soul Gem:

Strange reaches Warlock through his Soul Gem to communicate with him,
before Warlock kills him:

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Strange tells Warlock of the Future, and Warlock sees that it is true:

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This is Strange talking:

"He sees himself Victorious over me,
DESTROYING Me, as must certainly happen ANY moment Now"

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Warlock ALWAYS Knew the outcome of this drama:

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My insignificant oppinion doesnt matter

.. cool ... but ...

Lie #1 exposed.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

dr strange resisted LT with the vishaantis also, temporarily

Strange tried to oppose the LT's will back in 1967,
Strange was immediately humbled, nothing more happened:

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(first time around in issue #158)

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And the LT wasn't even trying to ever hurt Strange!

The LT was only testing Strange.

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(second time around in issue #163)

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Strange was just being a nuisance,
by trying to get in the way of the LT and Nebulos.

Owned!

Owned again!

That's it ..

is this what you call "dr strange resisted LT?" 😆

He definitely tried. LOL!

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My insignificant oppinion doesnt matter

.. cool ... but ...

Lie #2 exposed.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

and then resurrected the cloack of levitation
making LT beleive that he was worthy of existing.

This doesn't in any way, shape or form prove or even allude to Strange resisting LT.

The ONLY thing/feat Strange did, was break out of the "Rings of Raggadorr."

sarcasticclap

Restore his own cloak which Zom torched:

This made him worthy of existence:

Again, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with Strange resisting the LT.

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My insignificant oppinion doesnt matter

.. cool ... but ...

Lie #3 exposed.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

dr strange has defeaed death twice

Which is true, Strange never has never defeated Death in a battle.

Death only tried to seduce Strange into accepting her embrace,
Strange overcame her temptations.

Good for Dr Strange, he has a strong will,
but this has NOTHING to do with Strange over-powering Death.

Nice try.

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(second time around)

Death didn't, attack Strange, not ever, you seriously didn't know that?

Death was only trying to make Strange accept his inevitable fate ... Death!

Death clearly points out that her Conceptual purpose is part of the balance,
so Strange should embrace her:

Strange resists the temptation, nothing more.

That's how Death is defeated,
NOT by getting over-powered as you tried to present it.

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My insignificant oppinion doesnt matter

.. cool ... but ...

Lie #4 exposed.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

as well as the inbetweener

😆

Here I thought you were speaking about a real incident,
like when the LT summoned the In-Betweener to fight just Strange,

Strange got owned.

Strange amped is another story,
Strange can't do that all the time, or at will,
in fact, Order and Chaos only helped him,
because they wanted the In-Betweener anyway.

"You are not as omnipotent as you think,
for there is nothing, real or imagined,
which is not subject to the power of its Creator"

Originally posted by leonheartmm

again your insignificant oppinion doesnt matter on the subject.

My insignificant oppinion doesnt matter

.. cool ... but ...

Lie #5 exposed.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

i never stated that it was said on panel to be HALF a universe or PART of a universe,

i said UNIVERSE

{which to those with half a brain signifies WHOLE universe,
which still isnt a MULTIverse or MEGAverse, also for those with a brain}

BOTH Epiphany and Genis called the infinite Multiverse ... The UNIVERSE!!!

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Just like in THOTI story! (The End: Marvel)

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"Entropy is the Son of,

Eternity,
the Cosmic Being whose Essence Encompasses the ENTIRETY of the MULTIVERSE ...

Entropy has enlisted Captain Marvel in a Quest to Destroy His Father,

... Eternity and End All Creation"

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After Entropy and Captain Marvel Destroy

"Eternity, whose Essence Encompasses the Multiverse"

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Epiphany:

"Can't you see he's blaiming himself for failing to kill you and save the Universe?"

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Captain Marvel:

"think of all the times you saved the Universe,

Truth is. the Universe was living on borrowed time,

the truth is, the Universe did END with a whimper,

Eternity didn't want to keep going"

swank

Which is interesting,
since you brought up Entropy/Genis taking out the Multiverse.

You also said:

Originally posted by leonheartmm

reed with the ultimate nullifier recreated the whole MULTIVERSE on panel

"and where one Eternity would ensure a boundless Universe,
a Multi-Eternity would ensure a "boundless Multiverse"

Yet on the very same splash page,
Reed labels Multi-Eternity as "The Universe"

"Within all Eternity, The Universe is a place of chaos and order"

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Just like in THOTI story! (The End: Marvel)

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Originally posted by leonheartmm

also,
you are calling my statement of on panel saying that thanos destroyed a UNIverse by saying THIS

"stated Thanos wiped out the ENTIRE Marvel Universe!"

1 Universe

or

ONE Universe

or

A Universe

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I'll retire from KMC.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

are you a moron or just friggin blind.

what are you trying to prove by being a fool????

Reported for member bashing.

Originally posted by leonheartmm

so again, you fail,
and are proved to be a ridiculous liar and a fool to top it off.

either learn the friggin language or dont bother commenting.

Reported again! ... for member bashing.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer133.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer135.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer136.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer138.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer138a.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer139.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer140.jpg

THERE YOU GO. scans. and to prove once and for all that he created a MULTIVERSE, not a universe{which is just simple terminology from the SAME author, based in the style of the comic}

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/Lucifer_Nirvana_p05.jpg

now PLEASE, atcually READ the scans, before making any blanket statements. and dont claim again that i dont give scans, ihave given my scans before, you just neglected to reed them.

All he does is create a universe anyways. Even if we ignore it when it clearly states universe while he is doing it and focus on multiverse ho wdoes this trump anything that Thanos did with the heart.

Thanos easily defeated the Lt who presides over the multiverse. He was in everything which was stated on panel. He was supreme which was backed up by the own writer on panel.

Now you talk about your writer confirming multiverse in one scan where it was stated over and over that Thanos was supreme and in one scan tha he was god.

Yet you have a problem with this and then expect me to take one scan over the rest. My evidence all adds up while yours is contradictory.

Thanos is supreme and curbstomps Lucifer easily as he was never supreme or even close.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you can find a single statement, a SINGLE statement that says,

[b]1 Universe

or

ONE Universe

or

A Universe

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I'll retire from KMC. [/B]

UNI-Means One. One universe would be redundant. That would be like saying One-Oneverse.

Originally posted by fangirl101
UNI-Means One. One universe would be redundant. That would be like saying One-Oneverse.

I find it hilarious that in the same thread, the fact that Lucifer created a Multiverse is opposed due to statements containing the word 'Universe' in them, despite the fact that Lucifer flat-out confirmed that it is a Multiverse, while Thanos's feat is taken for granted as being more than a Universal one, despite the word 'Universe' being present there numerous times also. 😂

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
I find it hilarious that in the same thread, the fact that Lucifer created a Multiverse is opposed due to statements containing the word 'Universe', despite the fact that Lucifer flat-out confirmed that it is a Multiverse, while Thanos's feat is taken for granted as being more than a Universal one, despite the word 'Universe' being present there numerous times also. 😂

To curbstomp Lt you cant just be a universal threat you must be a multiversal threat.

Lucy doesnt have anywhere near the battle feats of Thanos with the heart.

You know Lucifer doesn't care to be supreme?? What has Thanos done that Lucifer hasn't?? I believe we saw Lucifer talking to The Presence, Thanos never came close to having the will or intellegence to escape the plan by TOAA and pass it on to another and escape into the void and have a chat with TOAA 😉

Originally posted by kevdude
You know Lucifer doesn't care to be supreme?? What has Thanos done that Lucifer hasn't?? I believe we saw Lucifer talking to The Presence, Thanos never came close to having the will or intellegence to escape the plan by TOAA and pass it on to another and escape into the void and have a chat with TOAA 😉

Thanos is supreme.

Thanos had battle feats that would make lucy blush.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not even once.

Which is true, Strange never has never defeated Death in a battle.

Death only tried to seduce Strange into accepting her embrace,
Strange overcame her temptations.

Good for Dr Strange, he has a strong will,
but this has NOTHING to do with Strange over-powering Death.

Nice try.

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(second time around)

Death didn't, attack Strange, not ever, you seriously didn't know that?

Death was only trying to make Strange accept his inevitable fate ... Death!

Death clearly points out that her Conceptual purpose is part of the balance,
so Strange should embrace her:

Strange resists the temptation, nothing more.

That's how Death is defeated,
NOT by getting over-powered as you tried to present it.

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[b]My insignificant oppinion doesnt matter

.. cool ... but ...

Lie #4 exposed. [/B]

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you can find a single statement, a SINGLE statement that says,

[b]1 Universe

or

ONE Universe

or

A Universe

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I'll retire from KMC. [/B]

uni=one

try and keep up k. again with the english language thing. if sum1 says UNIverse, it is taken for granted that they are talking about a single universe. unless they universeS, which thanos never did. and you are being super idiotic here and missing the point on an OMNIVERSAL level 😆 .

"I" never said that i truly BELEIVE that thanos destroyed just ONE UNIverse, i know quite well that it was on entire MULTIverse, because me, being as OFF PANEL logical being can see that nuthing short of MULTIversal destruction can stop the MULTIversal guardian, LT. but i was explaining to YOU and QUAN that if all of us logical people start going by YOUR strategy of taking singular statements on panel and interpreting them as be all and end all, INFALLIABLE evidence, {which you often use to get others down around here} then by your OWN definition, thanos never destroyed anything more than a UNIverse and nuthing contrary was stated ON PANEL. i dont beleive it, but hey, as long as your gonna be stubborn, thanos is just a universe destroyer. so either change your silly tactics, or accept this inevitable outcome.

death being unable to CLAIM strange is proof enough. and you of all people shud know that when the infinite gems are working in TEDIUM with each other, their power is MUCH increased, it doesnt matter if he was using one EFFECT at a time, it was still the INFINITE GAUNTLETT, thanos himself doesnt necessarily use the effect of each gem simultaneously most of the time, so there is no point there.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
if sum1 says UNIverse, it is taken for granted that they are talking about a single universe.