Thanos vs Apocalypse [H2H]

Started by celestialdemon11 pages
Originally posted by llagrok
- One-shotted a Frenzy whose strength and durability had been amplified many, many times over.

Not familiar with him so can't really comment.

Originally posted by llagrok
- One-shotted Colossus.

When?

Originally posted by llagrok
- Stalemated the High Evolutionary.

He's not a physically powerful being.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Defeated Ikaris.

Impressive but not on Surfer's level.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Had a decent showing against Loki.

Not the strongest Asgardian out there.

Originally posted by llagrok
- He didn't do any more damage to Thor than Drax or BRB did.

Did either one pound Thor through the floor with 2 punches?

Originally posted by llagrok
- He didn't hurt Tyrant, he hit him with the orb that contained a mass of cosmic power.

Look at his expressions. He looks hurt. And you have no idea how much power was in that orb. Neither Tyrant nor Thanos acknowledge the orb enhancing Thanos' power in any way.

Originally posted by llagrok
Apocalypse can use that to his advantange, obviously.

The way SS, Thor, Drax, and Fallen One have used their flying to their advantage?

- Ikaris is the Prime Eternal, he's above anyone Thanos has ever physically beaten down. Do you actually know that it was an alternate universe where Thanos defeated the Surfer? You also missed his cheap shot.
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- Did you know that Thanos and Terrax discussed how obtaining the orb would make a huge difference and how Thanos claims it's very valuable information?

- Did you know that Apocalypse can easily dodge or create holes in his body wherever Thanos punches him?

- You claim to have to read their fight during the executinor's saga, you missed the part where it takes Apocalypse one punch to knock out Colossus?

- Frenzy is a she. You might want to look into Apocalypse before certainly being fully aware of how capable he is 🙂

- Drax and BRB fought Thor on and uninhabited planet, so I don't see how Thanos knocking Thor through the floor is such a big feat.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Ikaris is the Prime Eternal, he's above anyone Thanos has ever physically beaten down.

Oh please. As powerful as Ikaris is, he isn't gonna defeat people like Thor and Drax in physical combat anytime soon.

Originally posted by llagrok
Do you actually know that it was an alternate universe where Thanos defeated the Surfer? You also missed his cheap shot.
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Um, no, it wasn't. It was because of this incident that Thanos was banned from Death's realm. That's in continuity. And Thanos' first attack was a cheap shot. After that, he let Surfer attack him, block it, and beat the shit out of him.

[QUOTE=10130118]Originally posted by llagrok
[B]- Did you know that Thanos and Terrax discussed how obtaining the orb would make a huge difference and how Thanos claims it's very valuable information?

Please show me this scan.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Did you know that Apocalypse can easily dodge or create holes in his body wherever Thanos punches him?

Much like the same way he's dodged

Originally posted by llagrok
- You claim to have to read their fight during the executinor's saga, you missed the part where it takes Apocalypse one punch to knock out Colossus?

Yeah, that looked like a punch to me. 🙄

Originally posted by llagrok
- Frenzy is a she. You might want to look into Apocalypse before certainly being fully aware of how capable he is 🙂

I don't care if Frenzy is a he/she/it. If she hasn't done anything impressive against powerful beings (at least herald level), Apocalypse defeating her doesn't mean anything to Thanos.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Drax and BRB fought Thor on and uninhabited planet, so I don't see how Thanos knocking Thor through the floor is such a big feat.

The difference is Drax and Bill got their asses handed to them by Thor. Thanos alone fought him evenly.

Originally posted by llagrok
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That's what I feel for anyone who thinks Apocalypse has a prayer in this fight.

- Apocalypse didn't just punch Colossus, fair enough.

- Frenzy had been amplified many times over. Does a character HAVE to beat famous big names for you to acknowledge it as a feat?

- There was a reason why Thanos had to stop Thor with his gun and involve Odin. Don't you think? Or did you just completely acknowledge the text and just look at the pretty pictures?

Also, I'd like to know how strong you think the Surfer is physically. Because he doesn't really amplify himself that much. Durok didn't have a hard time knocking out the Surfer, Durok is a mere class 100, just like plenty other meta characters. The problem with you, is that you think people need to physically knock out high herald level characters simply to be able to stand up to Thanos, which is ridiculous, because Thanos' physical showings are SOOOOOOOO few and the ones you mention include him in Alternate Realities or using items.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
That's what I feel for anyone who thinks Apocalypse has a prayer in this fight.

Fair enough.

I didn't claim that Apocalypse would win though. I'm simply proving how ridiculous it is that you think a class 100 with no actual feats, would stand up to another class 100 who can fly, regenerate, control his own body and actually has feats 🙂

seriously, Thanos went toe-to-toe with Odin, beat up Surfer and has taken WM Thor's barrage without ill-effect.

Apocalypse wouldn't last a page against anyone of that calibre.

this is spite, pure and simple.

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Originally posted by janus77
seriously, Thanos went toe-to-toe with Odin, beat up Surfer and has taken WM Thor's barrage without ill-effect.

Apocalypse wouldn't last a page against anyone of that calibre.

this is spite, pure and simple.

Did you even read the opening post?

Originally posted by llagrok
Not considering that they will battle it out physically, hand to hand.

The only and I mean only reason why Thanos would win the full majority here, which he will, is because Bran is letting him amplify his punches.

I cannot believe you are insisting Apoc has a chance. He has no chance. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem and was still a-ok. Thor with the power gem would absolutely decimate Apoc. Apoc wouldnt last two panels against Odin or Tyrant. Apoc should stick to beating on Storm. 😄

Originally posted by llagrok

- Frenzy had been amplified many times over. Does a character HAVE to beat famous big names for you to acknowledge it as a feat?

They have to beat someone who actually has feats. If a new character comes out tomorrow that is said to be as powerful as the Hulk and Thor stomps him into the ground, is that as impressive as beating the Hulk himself? No.

Frenzy has to show some actual feats for Apocalypse's feat to be more credible.

Originally posted by llagrok
- There was a reason why Thanos had to stop Thor with his gun and involve Odin. Don't you think? Or did you just completely acknowledge the text and just look at the pretty pictures?

I'm wondering if that's what you do, because it's stated very plainly why he used the gun. He got bored with the fight. Maybe you should actually read what's written.

Originally posted by llagrok
- Also, I'd like to know how strong you think the Surfer is physically. Because he doesn't really amplify himself that much.

SS has always been considered class 100.

Originally posted by llagrok
Durok didn't have a hard time knocking out the Surfer, Durok is a mere class 100, just like plenty other meta characters.

The same "mere class 100" Durok that knocked out Thor and broke SS's board?

Originally posted by llagrok
The problem with you, is that you think people need to physically knock out high herald level characters simply to be able to stand up to Thanos, which is ridiculous, because Thanos' physical showings are SOOOOOOOO few and the ones you mention include him in Alternate Realities or using items.

A character at least has to contend with that level in order to stand up to him. That's just how powerful Thanos is. He's taken a hell of a lot more than Apocalypse can ever throw at him. And what alternate realities or item using are you referring to?

Originally posted by llagrok
I didn't claim that Apocalypse would win though. I'm simply proving how ridiculous it is that you think a class 100 with no actual feats, would stand up to another class 100 who can fly, regenerate, control his own body and actually has feats 🙂

What's ridiculous is you thinking Thanos is a normal class 100. That's like saying Thanos and Galactus are the same strength level because they are both 100. Can Apocalypse take Galactus in a purely physical fight?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cannot believe you are insisting Apoc has a chance. He has no chance. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem and was still a-ok. Thor with the power gem would absolutely decimate Apoc. Apoc wouldnt last two panels against Odin or Tyrant. Apoc should stick to beating on Storm. 😄

Have you been ignoring everything?

- Look at my ****ing scans. It clearly states that the orb of energy was Tyrant's greatest weakness.

- You're the only one who thinks that Thanos would last long against Odin, if Thanos only gets to fight physically.

- When I say "Thanos takes the fully majority" what do you think I mean? Please, I'd like to know.

- A-ok? Why do you think that Thanos was forced to seek out Odin?

- If Apocalypse wanted to, he could dodge Thor's punches for over an hour...

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I'm wondering if that's what you do, because it's stated very plainly why he used the gun. He got bored with the fight. Maybe you should actually read what's written.

Then why did Thanos seek out Odin? Thanos himself admitted that Thor would burst out of the box in 15 minutes. Missed that part?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
SS has always been considered class 100.

So? He's not really above any regular class 100 unless he amplifies himself using the power cosmic.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
A character at least has to contend with that level in order to stand up to him. That's just how powerful Thanos is. He's taken a hell of a lot more than Apocalypse can ever throw at him.

This is where you're wrong. Thanos hasn't taken a lot of physical punishment, not without being injured or feeling pain.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
What's ridiculous is you thinking Thanos is a normal class 100. That's like saying Thanos and Galactus are the same strength level because they are both 100. Can Apocalypse take Galactus in a purely physical fight?

No, I think that Thanos is a class 100+ with little feats to back it up with. Do you have a lot of Thanos strength feats? I acutally have a good number. Do you have any at all?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
And what alternate realities or item using are you referring to?

Wasn't an alternate universe after all, turns out it was Cosmic Powers unlimited. Nonetheless, the Surfer has been knocked out by a lot of different things. Such as being drowned....

Items? I was referring to the item he used against Tyrant. You know, the item that was claimed to be Tyrant's greatest weakness.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I cannot believe you are insisting Apoc has a chance. He has no chance. Thanos took on Thor with the power gem and was still a-ok. Thor with the power gem would absolutely decimate Apoc. Apoc wouldnt last two panels against Odin or Tyrant. Apoc should stick to beating on Storm. 😄

I think he has a chance of lasting more than 2 panels against them, considering he can rubberize himself, make holes, and has unlimited strength.

Originally posted by llagrok
[B]- One-shotted a Frenzy whose strength and durability had been amplified many, many times over.

Frenzy? Not Hulk and not Surfer. So...


- One-shotted Colossus.

Err...Colossus?


- Stalemated the High Evolutionary

Maker...


- Defeated Ikaris

Blackbolt physically owned Ikaris.


- Had a decent showing against Loki

Loki is not that strong.


- He didn't do any more damage to Thor than Drax or BRB did.

Big difference here. Drax and BRB fought Thor. Thanos fought Thor With POWER GEM, who earlier was owning Strange, Surfer, and IW.


- There was a reason why Thanos had to stop Thor with his gun.

Because he was bored. He went pretty evenly against Thor. Strange, Drax, Maxam, and Warlock were knocked out fighting against Thor. Surfer couldn't do a thing but help Pip teleport Thor into Thanos' sanctum.

Proof High E is skyfather...

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Oh...wait..nevermind 😖hifty:

Beast has beaten up Frenzy, iirc.

"Prime Eternal" Ikaris. Lulz.

Originally posted by llagrok

Then why did Thanos seek out Odin? Thanos himself admitted that Thor would burst out of the box in 15 minutes. Missed that part?

Because he needed Odin to heal him of his Warrior Madness. That's something he couldn't do.

Originally posted by llagrok
So? He's not really above any regular class 100 unless he amplifies himself using the power cosmic.

He's still above Ikaris.

Originally posted by llagrok
This is where you're wrong. Thanos hasn't taken a lot of physical punishment, not without being injured or feeling pain.

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Originally posted by llagrok
No, I think that Thanos is a class 100+ with little feats to back it up with. Do you have a lot of Thanos strength feats? I acutally have a good number. Do you have any at all?

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Originally posted by llagrok
Wasn't an alternate universe after all, turns out it was Cosmic Powers unlimited. Nonetheless, the Surfer has been knocked out by a lot of different things. Such as being drowned....

But he's never been beaten to death like Thanos did to him.

Originally posted by llagrok
Items? I was referring to the item he used against Tyrant. You know, the item that was claimed to be Tyrant's greatest weakness.

Did you see anything in there that stated Thanos needed it to defeat Tyrant? Thanos is a being who prizes knowledge over anything else. The knowledge of Tyrant's orb is what he wanted. Again, nowhere is it stated that he used the orb to power himself up, nor is the power increase referred to by Thanos or Tyrant.

How did this get to 10 pages ?

Apocalypse would not survive.

Originally posted by llagrok
Have you been ignoring everything?

- Look at my ****ing scans. It clearly states that the orb of energy was Tyrant's greatest weakness.

- You're the only one who thinks that Thanos would last long against Odin, if Thanos only gets to fight physically.

- When I say "Thanos takes the fully majority" what do you think I mean? Please, I'd like to know.

- A-ok? Why do you think that Thanos was forced to seek out Odin?

- If Apocalypse wanted to, he could dodge Thor's punches for over an hour...

Then why did Thanos seek out Odin? Thanos himself admitted that Thor would burst out of the box in 15 minutes. Missed that part?

So? He's not really above any regular class 100 unless he amplifies himself using the power cosmic.

This is where you're wrong. Thanos hasn't taken a lot of physical punishment, not without being injured or feeling pain.

No, I think that Thanos is a class 100+ with little feats to back it up with. Do you have a lot of Thanos strength feats? I acutally have a good number. Do you have any at all?

Wasn't an alternate universe after all, turns out it was Cosmic Powers unlimited. Nonetheless, the Surfer has been knocked out by a lot of different things. Such as being drowned....

Items? I was referring to the item he used against Tyrant. You know, the item that was claimed to be Tyrant's greatest weakness.

Ok we both agree that Apoc gets stomped.

But really you say that Odin could just decimate Thanos physically. When has Odin physically thrashed anyone? 😆 So you are telling me Odin gets to blast away and summon weapons while Thanos just has to be physical. And for your information they fought and Thanos lasted a long time against him. 🙂

Originally posted by Faceman
How did this get to 10 pages ?
Apoc fanboys.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Proof High E is skyfather...

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg236/MoonKnight616/wcaannualo3-34.jpg

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Oh...wait..nevermind 😖hifty:

This is the guy llagrok claimed was at Tyrant level.

😆 😆 🤣

I don't see Apocalypse walking through Odin's power concentrated through Gugnir... ermm