Quasar w/Starbrand vs. Darkseid

Started by operator6163 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Sez who?

When things are bumped, they're usually using the latest incarnations.

I though it was pretty obvious, no?

The op is using Quasar with the starbrand. Quasar, who possessed the original starbrand back in his series, so i think op's intention was pretty clear.

Originally posted by operator616

She was no match for LT in the sense that she would lose in the end,

but it would still be a fight


In the english language, that's considered an oxymoron.

When you're "no match" against something,
you shouldn't be able to put up a fight.

Just like if you can manipulate an entire universe,
you shouldn't be using a single star to attack someone who is far beyond stellar level.

... phuckin Gruenwald ... writing while high on shrooms.

Originally posted by operator616

that was the very reason behind them employing to use champions (Quasar/Surfer) instead of engaging in direct head on combat. If she was truly a global power, like you're saying, LT could simply extract the starbrand from her

Actually that's comics for ya friend.

It's a Quasar book, where Quasar will ultimately/inevitably end up being the saviour/hero.

The LT stomps Erish and Quasar can't shine. 🙂

Originally posted by operator616

So actions speak louder than words anyway, wouldn't you agree?

Absolutely. and ... since Erish is based on literally nothing by "words." I guess you agree with me.
Originally posted by operator616

She was never merged with the congressmen (who she was able to easily destroy btw), they merely added their power to her own at the cosmic axis to overthrow the balance of power in the multiverse, then the LT came and interrupted them. There wasn't any indication that their powers merged with hers.

Except for the Guardians adding their powers to her own?

A spin of contradictions courtesy of "Hawk catching" Gruenwald.

Originally posted by operator616

Every SB wielder before quasar came into NU was a full powered SB.
The LT/Erishkigal incident explored its potential.

The whole point of Erish seeking out the Nexus,
was so she could affect reality,
something she couldn't do outside the Nexus.

Actually, there's absolutely no evidence of any kind to suggest Erish was anything more than global.

In truth, there's nothing to suggest she was even global for that matter,
I'm just being generous due to the Starbrand's greatest feat,
which is a global one, in the past and the present.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In the english language, that's considered an oxymoron.

When you're "no match" against something,
you shouldn't be able to put up a fight.

Just like if you can manipulate an entire universe,
you shouldn't be using a single star to attack someone who is far beyond stellar level.

... phuckin Gruenwald ... writing while high on shrooms.

I disagree, "no match" can vary in meaning depending on the context. No match can also mean that the two of them would battle but LT would always have the upper hand gradually overpowering her, thus she can't really "match" his power. And considering that reality would be wrecked, it implies there would in fact be a battle between them.

And again, if she was a global power, she would literally be an ant to LT and as such he could forcibly extract the SB from her (just like the stranger did).

Originally posted by Mr Master

Actually that's comics for ya friend.

It's a Quasar book, where Quasar will ultimately/inevitably end up being the saviour/hero.

The LT stomps Erish and Quasar can't shine. 🙂

Absolutely. and ... since Erish is based on literally nothing by "words." I guess you agree with me.

That doesn't take away from the fact though.

Fact is, LT purposely avoided a fight with erishkigal since well, it would be a fight which would threaten reality (again, highlight being that it would be a fight rather than reality being wrecked due to nexus).

Originally posted by Mr Master

Absolutely. and ... since Erish is based on literally nothing by "words." I guess you agree with me.

Quite the opposite. the fact that LT took the action of not fighting and instead resorted to champions deciding their fate, actually supports my stance, imo.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Except for the Guardians adding their powers to her own?

A spin of contradictions courtesy of "Hawk catching" Gruenwald.

I definitely disagree here.

They poured their power to help erishkigal overthrow the old balance of power in the multiverse (at the cosmic axis)

That doesn't mean they amped her. there is a clear difference. Erishkigal and the congressmen, all of them are individually pouring their power for the same effect, nowhere was it mentioned that they actually permanently amped her.

Originally posted by Mr Master

The whole point of Erish seeking out the Nexus,
was so she could affect reality,
something she couldn't do outside the Nexus.

Actually, there's absolutely no evidence of any kind to suggest Erish was anything more than global.

In truth, there's nothing to suggest she was even global for that matter,
I'm just being generous due to the Starbrand's greatest feat,
which is a global one, in the past and the present.

Erishkigal also sent out energy pulses to the infinite realities. Yes, it was thru a nexus, but she still send them out to, literally, infinite realities.

Anyway, we seem to disagree in the interpretation of the story so i think ill just leave you to your own opinion.

Originally posted by operator616

I disagree, "no match" can vary in meaning depending on the context. No match can also mean that the two of them would battle but LT would always have the upper hand gradually overpowering her, thus she can't really "match" his power. And considering that reality would be wrecked, it implies there would in fact be a battle between them.

"Reality wrecked" due to the fact that any power would be dispensed withIN the Nexus.

... hello, Surtur nearly burned the entire Omniverse via the Nexus.

The silly PF performed a multiversal feat via the Nexus, etc etc.

Originally posted by operator616

And again, if she was a global power, she would literally be an ant to LT and as such he could forcibly extract the SB from her (just like the stranger did).

I guess you missed the: "it's a Quasar comic" justification.
Originally posted by operator616

Fact is, LT purposely avoided a fight with erishkigal since well, it would be a fight which would threaten reality (again, highlight being that it would be a fight rather than reality being wrecked due to nexus).

It's a Quasar comic, so Quasar will be the saviour/hero.

Simple.

Originally posted by operator616

Quite the opposite. the fact that LT took the action of not fighting and instead resorted to champions deciding their fate, actually supports my stance, imo.

It only supports that it's a Quasar comic. So again, he will prevail.

Not the LT, who was as pointless in that story as he was in Gruenwald's other mess, What If Korvac ...

Originally posted by operator616

They poured their power to help erishkigal overthrow the old balance of power in the multiverse (at the cosmic axis)

That doesn't mean they amped her. there is a clear difference. Erishkigal and the congressmen, all of them are individually pouring their power for the same effect, nowhere was it mentioned that they actually permanently amped her.


So, you're saying the Congress "helped" her unbalance shit? I don't recall.

The same Congress that's there to avoid said outcome?

If so, more senselessness on Gruenwald's part.

Originally posted by operator616

Erishkigal also sent out energy pulses to the infinite realities. Yes, it was thru a nexus, but she still send them out to, literally, infinite realities.

The PF created the Tower in "infinite realities."

Yea, the amazing shit one can do while accessing the Nexus.

Originally posted by operator616

Anyway, we seem to disagree in the interpretation of the story so i think ill just leave you to your own opinion.

Cool.

I'll wait on those scans of the Starbrand doing anything more than global.