Kain vs. Chaos Vincent

Started by Becci5 pages

I would like to be so bold and say that it is impossible to know from that scene wether or not Chaos is capable of doing such impact. There are too many possebilities that circle around it and no actual proof.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
You'd be lying if you say you don't overhype/overrate/overestimate Kain characters powers etc ermm

please show me where you think i have done these things and ill say yes or no to each if i think these were overhyped

Originally posted by Burning thought
your just a kain hater and a FF fan, thats the problem, wheras ime a LOK fan, but not a FF hater

i dont make any false statements, simply through your ignorence and not listening to people they look false

Chaos has feats to back up [B]useless powers in the face of kain and as people have said, Chaos+Omega=that explosion [/B]


Go re-read all ur anti-FF comments then say ur not a FF hater, and go read all ur posts in any Sephiroth thread then say that.

I do listen, you have no real evidence..

Chaos has feats to back up useless powers in the face of kain

dur

and as people have said, Chaos+Omega=that explosion

People have said they collided, clearly Chaos flew right through him

Originally posted by Terryc250
Go re-read all ur anti-FF comments then say ur not a FF hater, and go read all ur posts in any Sephiroth thread then say that.

I do listen, you have no real evidence..

dur

People have said they collided, clearly Chaos flew right through him

i know ime not a FF hater, i dont have to read any of my comments to know that

you dont read anything, you simply take gameplay and try and make it into an argument which from using gameplay is already void....even Madmel knows this, unfortunatley nobody else can because they do not know LOK

well yeh it is Dur isnt it, i shouldnt state the obvious, sorry

either of those scenarious can equel Omega causing a lot of that blast, omega exploding to create that blast, Chaos+omega output of power to create that blast, even if he did just fly through Omega

you dont read anything, you simply take gameplay and try and make it into an argument which from using gameplay is already void....even Madmel knows this, unfortunatley nobody else can because they do not know LOK

I read everything, I take facts from the game, it says you must charge your reaver, and after its charged you can unleash its power, yes its fact that it needs to be charged, your "battery theory" isnt real evidence, nor does it really make sense.

Omega was flying away, he wasnt outputting energy, he was simply flying away, Chaos rips right through him and into the ground.

Originally posted by Terryc250
People have said they collided, clearly Chaos flew right through him

If it is so clear, prove it. Take a picture of the point where he make an impact in the planet without Omega. Since it is so clear, you should have no problem doing so.

In short:
Prove it

Originally posted by Terryc250
I read everything, I take facts from the game, it says you must charge your reaver, and after its charged you can unleash its power, yes its fact that it needs to be charged, your "battery theory" isnt real evidence, nor does it really make sense.

Omega was flying away, he wasnt outputting energy, he was simply flying away, Chaos rips right through him and into the ground.

it wouldnt make sense would it to a hater and someone who has not played the games, funny it makes sense to 2 seperate people who have played all the games...

causing Omega to explode into the energy we see

Originally posted by Becci
If it is so clear, prove it. Take a picture of the point where he make an impact in the planet without Omega. Since it is so clear, you should have no problem doing so.

In short:
Prove it

Starting at about 1:00, Omega starts flies into the air, Chaos flies up wards, catches up and goes passed Omega, as hes above Omega, he starts to exhaust his power and blitz downwards, you can clearly see him ENTERING Omega, and going THROUGH him, all the bright crap is the lifestream inside Omega, after a few seconds you can still see him flying through until he reaches a bright light at the end of Omega, so hes at the end of Omega, the camera changes to the planet, and a big impact quake, like a meteor hitting planet.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Burning thought
it wouldnt make sense would it to a hater and someone who has not played the games, funny it makes sense to 2 seperate people who have played all the games...

causing Omega to explode into the energy we see

You do have your moments of hyping with Kain. I just now remembered the time where you said that he was equal in speed with Loz in the fight with Tifa(?) ✅

Originally posted by Becci
You do have your moments of hyping with Kain. I just now remembered the time where you said that he was equal in speed with Loz in the fight with Tifa(?) ✅

i just dont see Loz as moving incredibly fast, he was fast id give you, but not so much faster than kain, that he could Blitz him, a Blitz would take a lot more speed than that diffrence

also before the balance was taken into effect, kain was going to be able to move at bullet speed as young kain, so technically taking away gameplay balance, he would in canon be able to move at bullet speed, which is damn quick

Originally posted by Burning thought
i just dont see Loz as moving incredibly fast, he was fast id give you, but not so much faster than kain, that he could Blitz him, a Blitz would take a lot more speed than that diffrence

also before the balance was taken into effect, kain was going to be able to move at bullet speed as young kain, so technically taking away gameplay balance, he would in canon be able to move at bullet speed, which is damn quick

The two clips that were compared had Loz just about double Kain's speed. Since Kain has never actually moved in bullet speed, that should not be taken into consideration.

HOWEVER, Kain is really fast. I did not expect someone as old as him to move as fast as that 😛

Originally posted by Terryc250
Starting at about 1:00, Omega starts flies into the air, Chaos flies up wards, catches up and goes passed Omega, as hes above Omega, he starts to exhaust his power and blitz downwards, you can clearly see him ENTERING Omega, and going THROUGH him, all the bright crap is the lifestream inside Omega, after a few seconds you can still see him flying through until he reaches a bright light at the end of Omega, so hes at the end of Omega, the camera changes to the planet, and a big impact quake, like a meteor hitting planet.

YouTube video

Again, we did not see him do so. For all we know, the light could have been the end of Omega and Chaos could have stopped there with a SMACK, pulling Omega down with him and causing the impact.

We did not see ANYTHING

By the way, I loooooooooveeee happy endings 😄

Omega is like a giant living materia, all materia is, is just lifestream, so is Omega, materia is capable of outputting lots of energy and cause destruction, like omega, however.. if you crush or destroy materia, it wont detonate and explode

But if I recall properly from my time with Final Fantasy, materia is an enforcer of power.

Materia is a small sphere object composed of lifestream that, can do magic like fire/fire2/fire3 ice/ice2/ice3, etc, etc

it wouldnt blow up like a bomb if its destroyed.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Materia is a small sphere object composed of lifestream that, can do magic like fire/fire2/fire3 ice/ice2/ice3, etc, etc

it wouldnt blow up like a bomb if its destroyed.

Well Materia would, look at the space ship with the "Huge materia" on it. But Omega was carrying Lifestream, which wouldn't and doesn't

I just consider the proof too vague. Although I am not one to speak, as I am not very cunning with FF.

Originally posted by Becci
I just consider the proof too vague. Although I am not one to speak, as I am not very cunning with FF.

That's why you're perfect for it, not bias one way or another thumb

Thats a neat way of looking at it 😄

It's the good way of looking at it 🙂