Odin vs Thanos (Neutral Ground)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well how could it possibly be argued that he would defeat Upgraded Thanos when he couldn't even beat pre-upgrade Thanos?

Thanos stood his ground and met Thor head on while a team of badasses were getting thrown around. He was doing fine but would have ran out of gas against the power gem.

Originally posted by LORD B
here you go
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=476370&highlight=title%3A%28thanos+vs+odin%29+forumid%3A77

its never really been shown that odin is less powerful outside asgard.

Well ok it does state that in his bio. I know bios can be wrong but you they usually get stats wrong, not stuff like this. Its like alot of skyftahre level beings are less powerful outside their dimension Dorammu, Mephisto etc etc. Its like reality works differently in there dimension so when they come to earth they are slightly less powerful.

Originally posted by janus77
I thought the fight was in Asagard (is it Asa-gard and not As-gard? sorry for the typo, if I'm wrong), from what I remember.

Its probably a transliteration anyway. I think its Asa-gard anyway, but meh obvoulsy the word is from old norse so it could have been spelt different in the original language. Ive seen some text with Thors name written as Porr.

Originally posted by janus77

they went over the bridge, quite early on. then Thanos was getting blasted and knocked down and Odin was talking of breaking out the heavy weapons but still... Thanos was just getting up and reacting like it wasn't much of a strain.

You sure, I thought they didnt cross the bridge until he got blasted with gungnir.

Originally posted by janus77

I mean, we've seen Thanos beg for his life, he's a smart character... he doesn't show unreasonable pride. if he thinks he might die, he'll beg. he definitely wasn't at all phased by the way Odin was going at him...

True. Remember though Thanos did ask Surfer to back him up and this was before Odin got out Gungnir.

I mean I kinda interpreted Odin using Gungnir as him wanting the finish the job more quickly, he still could have won but he wanted to do it with less fuss. To be fair Odin was suprised at Thanos's strength but he never seemed stressed out.

Originally posted by janus77

dunno, I have seen Odin battles that "shook dead galaxies" and I've never seen Thanos do anything on that scale, under his own power so, logically... Odin should smite him I guess ...

I personally think Odin jobbed a bit. The only thing I can say is that if outside Asagard he was able to take on the combined assault of Thanos and SS then it could have been argued he would have won in the end.

Then again Odin is supposed to be less powerful outside Asagard, that could make him sub-skyfather? So outside Asagard it could be a 5/5 split.

Odin isn't less powerful outside of Asgard.

You think the Odinforce can only be used there?

Originally posted by llagrok
Odin isn't less powerful outside of Asgard.

You think the Odinforce can only be used there?

I didnt say that it couldnt be used outside Asagard all I said was that he was less powerful outside Asagard.

I could be wrong but ive seen it stated in bios. They tend to get stats wrong but I dont think this is the case with general description of powers.

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mhandbook00813rougherbr3.jpg

Odin's power is also dependent upon the dimension of Asgard itself.

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marveluniverse00954ib6.jpg

Odin's power wanes the longer he is on earth or in a dimension other than Asgard's

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I didnt say that it couldnt be used outside Asagard all I said was that he was less powerful outside Asagard.

I could be wrong but ive seen it stated in bios. They tend to get stats wrong but I dont think this is the case with general description of powers.

http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mhandbook00813rougherbr3.jpg

Odin's power is also dependent upon the dimension of Asgard itself.

http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=marveluniverse00954ib6.jpg

Odin's power wanes the longer he is on earth or in a dimension other than Asgard's

Therefore Thanos would win in the end.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have never seen Drax warrant the attention that Thor did. Uhm and if you forgot Thor took the gem off of Drax. So your whole argument is moot. Thor beat Drax with the power gem. 😛

You do realize what you just said, right? You're arguing that Thanos couldn't have beaten Thor because he was wearing the Power Gem. Yet, you just stated that Thor beat Drax with the Power Gem. So, it's possible for Thor to do it but not Thanos? 🙄

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah they caused Thor some momentary pain but again due to the power gem it had no lasting effect.

By your statement, you said no damage, not no lasting effect. Obviously that's not the case.

Thanos absorbs Damage better than most Physical beings. If Thanos can soak up Odin's vast power output w/in Asgard, add to that Thanos holds true to himself no matter his location, and you have an equation for Odin's possible defeat or at least stalemate.

Seeing as Odin was barely using a fraction of his power against Thanos, I'd say that even outside Asgard he'd win.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Seeing as Odin was barely using a fraction of his power against Thanos, I'd say that even outside Asgard he'd win.

Where in the book did it say he needed to use gungnir?

Edit: We have seen fights where Odin's using most/all of his power and doing so was effecting an entire galaxy.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where in the book did it say he needed to use gungnir?

Scan?

Originally posted by Nihilist
if odin was only using a fraction of his power,why did he have to use the gungnir?

Exactly!!!

If one were not using their abilities as is claimed then there would be no need to summon a secondary offensive option.

Thanos simply Pimpslaps those that he finds unworthy.

Or more likely, he either wasn't using most of his power or it's a very low showing. Seeing as Odin has displayed galaxy level power more than once.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Or more likely, he either wasn't using most of his power or it's a very low showing. Seeing as Odin has displayed galaxy level power more than once.

Was that galaxy level power used within Asgard?

B/c Thanos's battle w/ Odin destroyed a good portion of Asgard.

Odin has already credited Thanos as a worthy opponent.

That alone speaks in droves. 😎

There was no mention of galaxy level force(which Odin has been shown capable of) being used in the Thanos fight, which means 1) Odin was holding back 2) Very low showing or 3) PIS.

Take your pick.

Originally posted by Silent Master
There was no mention of galaxy level force(which Odin has been shown capable of) being used in the Thanos fight, which means 1) Odin was holding back 2) Very low showing or 3) PIS.

Take your pick.

That's silly! 🤨

Different writers have different interpretations of the same thing.

Which is better, power to destroy a Galaxy or a Dimension?

Again, Odin has already proven to be able to affect galaxies as a side effect of his battles when using all/most of his power. IOW, the Odin vs Thanos fight is an example of either 1)Odin holding back 2) Low showing or 3)PIS.