Originally posted by fangirl101
Dark matter and energy >>>Yellow suns based upon what Data?
Dark energy makes up 74% of the energy in the universe. Dark energy makes up 22% of it. 96% total. Which means everything we can see and explain - is a mere 4% of the total mass and energy in the universe. This 4% includes yellow suns...a very, very small percentage of that 4%.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Dark energy makes up 74% of the energy in the universe. Dark energy makes up 22% of it. 96% total. Which means everything we can see and explain - is a mere 4% of the total mass and energy in the universe. This 4% includes yellow suns...a very, very small percentage of that 4%.
Is this spacial or output?
Originally posted by fangirl101
Is this spacial or output?
It's the total mass-energy in the present universe..and since it has a mass, I'm assuming it's output.
So as I said, The Fallen One has the potential for a nearly limitless amount of energy he can harness. I think Thanos mentions it in the Thanos mini, prior to Annihilation.
Originally posted by Enyalus
It's the total mass-energy in the present universe..and since it has a mass, I'm assuming it's output.So as I said, The Fallen One has the potential for a nearly limitless amount of energy he can harness. I think Thanos mentions it in the Thanos mini, prior to Annihilation.
Originally posted by fangirl101
Mass and Output are two very different things. Which is why I asked. And because he taps into this, that means he can control it. That his body would be able to withstand the strain of that much power?
Meh, forgive my lack of scannage - I don't have a scanner on my laptop. It's Thanos 11 & 12, though.
Skreet: Eats of the black, it does.
[Later]
Thanos (to Galactus): The essence of the void sustains it. Black matter. The binding halo which galaxies are made solvent. What were you thinking?
[Later still, after Thanos is wounded by Fallen One]
Skreet: Scorchered you a good one through your image, did it? Very much powerful, Fallen One. Told and told the Titan but is he listening to Skreet? Not and not again.
Thanos: Its power source is infinite.
Skreet: What!? Needs it for purposeful purposing? Makes it show how it does it with the black?
Thanos: Close enough.
So, Thanos, Galactus, and Skreet give no indication that there's a limit to the power he can wield at one point in time.
Originally posted by Enyalusmeh, firestorm has an infinite power source as well, but that doesn't mean he can actually wield infinite power.
So, Thanos, Galactus, and Skreet give no indication that there's a limit to the power he can wield at one point in time.
having access to, and applying = two completely different things, me thinks. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
meh, firestorm has an infinite power source as well, but that doesn't mean he can actually wield infinite power.having access to, and applying = two completely different things, me thinks. 🙂
True enough. Time to break out the ABC logic, then!
Okay, so a weaker incarnation of Thanos was able to shitstomp Silver Surfer, pretty easily. The Fallen One nearly stalemated an upgraded Thanos during their little DBZ-esque power contest.
That should put him at least above Classic SS, if not around current SS's level. Thanos can and would BFR H/P DD with ease. Fallen One can BFR H/P DD with ease, too, but won't ('cause he's crazy). So, Doomsday gets screwed within the first 5 seconds, and then Highfather is outnumbered two against one against Thanos and someone who surpasses Classic SS in power.
I just don't see team one winning.
Originally posted by Enyalusare you talking about their fight during "thanos" #12? if so, fallen one was far from 'stalemating' thanos. in fact, thanos pretty much owned him with the most minuscule of efforts, really. hell, thanos had to call off skreet from attacking fallen one, in fear that she would kill him. LOLZ!!!1!!
The Fallen One nearly stalemated an upgraded Thanos during their little DBZ-esque power contest.
Originally posted by comicfan11You cant bring someone back from a bfr. 😂
And Highfather could bring him right back.Quan don't take this the wrong way but I don't have any interest in debating anything that has to do with Thanos with you, because he is your favorite character and you'll say anything to defend him. Sometimes you are right sometimes you are not.
Anyway I believe that team one wins.
Highfather has his connection with the Source and the whole "contained one fifth of a universe exploding thing" going for him (written by none other than Starlin) and that's proof enough for me that he wins.
Add to that Doomsday's evolving abilities and I think that's more than enough (IMO anyway)
Plus Nameless One doesn't have many appearances for him to gauge acuratelly and he was defeated by Thanos.
This is my reasoning and I won't get involved in a debate over it with you, because most of the time it gets derailed and comes down to insults and stuff.Most of the people in this thread go with team one and there is a reason for that.
Cheers.
That was a shared feat. ares killed the guy quickly and easily. Izaya doesnt have any impressive battles to his credit. He gets stomped easily.
Thanos can solo this and quite easily.
Originally posted by Galan007
are you talking about their fight during "thanos" #12? if so, fallen one was far from 'stalemating' thanos. in fact, thanos pretty much owned him with the most minuscule of efforts, really. hell, thanos had to call off skreet from attacking fallen one, in fear that she would kill him. LOLZ!!!1!!
Well, that's embarrassing. I mixed that up with Thanos #11, when he was fighting the Beyonder...both she and Fallen One had blue energy blasts, and it kind of ran together in my head, lol.
I'm looking at the fight in 12, and it looks like Thanos manages to halt his momentum...and then throw a bunch of debris/rocks at him. 😐 He charges right back, unfazed.
And Skreet did fairly well against Beyonder, all things considered. 😛 Tough little pixie.
Originally posted by Enyalusi hate when that happens. 😛
Well, that's embarrassing. I mixed that up with Thanos #11, when he was fighting the Beyonder...both she and Fallen One had blue energy blasts, and it kind of ran together in my head, lol.
Originally posted by Enyalusthanos wasn't trying to do more than KO fallen one. he needed him alive. that being said, fallen one was still incapable of countering methods which were quite basic/weak (in comparison to what thanos can really do, of course.)
I'm looking at the fight in 12, and it looks like Thanos manages to halt his momentum...and then throw a bunch of debris/rocks at him. 😐 He charges right back, unfazed.
point was, they didn't stalemate. thanos had the clear advantage. 😛
Originally posted by Enyalusright, but she was still smacking fallen one around like a weak feeb. smacking him around to the point where she had to be called off as to not kill him..
And Skreet did fairly well against Beyonder, all things considered. 😛 Tough little pixie.
and thanos >> skreet. 313