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Originally posted by Peek
Then explain it to me if its bigger.

They have to put their trust of their identity's in the government. They clearly don't trust the government otherwise they would be pro-reg. They don't get government support and can even be arrested for making decisions that go against governmental/S.H.I.E.L.D directive, despite what they believe to be right or wrong. I have no issue with registering heroes.I have an issue with the risk of that breaking out and i have an issue with heroes being controlled by the government ✅

Originally posted by willRules
They have to put their trust of their identity's in the government. They clearly don't trust the government otherwise they would be pro-reg. They don't get government support and can even be arrested for making decisions that go against governmental/S.H.I.E.L.D directive, despite what they believe to be right or wrong. I have no issue with registering heroes.I have an issue with the risk of that breaking out and i have an issue with heroes being controlled by the government ✅

Exactly. It wouldn't be as much of an issue even if all that red tape was beneficial to society from a sort of moral standpoint but it's not.

on a totally unrelated note, i just got a job making $30 an hour woot!!!!!

Originally posted by lando005
on a totally unrelated note, i just got a job making $30 an hour woot!!!!!

From various registration act rant threads:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sort of. As in Marvel seems to want to make the theme civil liberties.... with government control being the subtle bad guy...

The civil liberty to dress up and fight crime as a vigilante? (Way to diminish actual civil rights movements...) ... It's trying to apply a real world analogue to a situation where it doesn't really suit.

The mutant registration act was an okay civil liberties theme analogue because it was about a minority being discriminated due to something beyond their control and wanting to be treated with equal integrity.

In civil war the anti- people are fighting for their "right?" to be above the law... their "right?" to perform these activities by their own choice... just doesn't really fly and seems kinda silly if you really think about it.

It begs the question why have people even allowed this to go on at all? A question that doesn't seem to have been addressed in full as yet and probably won't. The status quo in comics is ordinary people have simply accepted heroes "just because". Civil War is no Watchmen

And yes it can't last, in the end they can't get rid of the heroes... this is the world of comic heroes... Marvel without heroes = bankrupt.. something will reconcile the two groups.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You're a bit late Spunky, I was bitching about the premise when it started. 131

Marvel already had an allegory for discrimination - mutants; which was a more legitimate civil rights allegory as it wasn't based on costumed heroics as a choice, it was based on genetically derived uncontrolled differences. And ordinary people in Marvel have in general always disliked mutants and would do so regardless of if there was no Magneto et al.

Halfway through Civil War they made it more akin to a civil rights issue in that powered people were made to register I think... but then it just becomes inconsistent - the likes of street levelers are never going to be able to cause any massive death and destruction that any ordinary person couldn't given the right resources... so is it about costumed heroics or powers at that stage... only the latter of which is an actual civil rights issue.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, the difference between "mutant registration" and "hero registration" is that the latter is registering a choice you've made.

Not every mutant will be an X-Man, in fact preHoM most weren't. They were ordinary people who were born a different way, and governments were proposing to register them for being born different despite them just living average ordinary lives. It's like asking someone to register because of their race or gender or sexuality.

Conversely everyone who puts on a colorful costume and runs around executing vigilante justice, does so of their own volition. They all choose to do the things they do, Marvel saying this is a civil rights issue is kind of hollow, no one has the right to be a vigilante.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Prostitution?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
From various registration act rant threads:

Originally posted by lando005
now we are stuck with a group of heroes who have to wait for permission to act in order to save lives instead of doing what's right. Also what happens when the gov control over the heroes become corrupted then what they are suppose to sit idly by while some gov official who obviously is doing something wrong gets away with it? I remember once spider-man was commenting on a case he was investigating stating that he was able to progress much faster and solve the situation quicker because he can simply bypass all the red tape that the police would have to go through. The heroes are suppose to stand for the people not the gov

The way in which Marvel have chosen to portray registration, how it's been executed and follow on effects, are irrelevant to what I wrote.

The premise of registration was fine when it was applied (only) to those who of their own volition perform costumed heroics. Nobody has the "right" to be a vigilante; so it's a perfectly reasonable request.

When it began being about powered people, the premise became muddled, despite being a better allegory.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
My posts are about the premise of the registration act, not the execution.

The way in which Marvel have chosen to portray registration, how it's been executed and follow on effects, are irrelevant to what I wrote.

The premise of registration was fine when it was applied (only) to those who of their own volition perform costumed heroics. Nobody has the "right" to be a vigilante; so it's a perfectly reasonable request.

When it began being about powered people, the premise became muddled, despite being a better allegory.

Originally posted by willRules
They have to put their trust of their identity's in the government. They clearly don't trust the government otherwise they would be pro-reg. They don't get government support and can even be arrested for making decisions that go against governmental/S.H.I.E.L.D directive, despite what they believe to be right or wrong. I have no issue with registering heroes.I have an issue with the risk of that breaking out and i have an issue with heroes being controlled by the government ✅

The comic world government is a little different than ours.

More trust worthy etc.

Originally posted by Amp
The comic world government is a little different than ours.

More trust worthy etc.

Originally posted by Amp
The comic world government is a little different than ours.

More trust worthy etc.

You mean like Henry Gyrich? Dell Rusk?

ah well at least we can trust the influential industrialists like Tony Stark....

Never Mind 😐

"That's crazy. The government doesn't lie!" - AVP 2

duryes

I wonder if Criss Angel had to register his powers.

Originally posted by willRules
You mean like Henry Gyrich? Dell Rusk?

ah well at least we can trust the influential industrialists like Tony Stark....

Never Mind 😐

Dont matter you're still......

Originally posted by Amp
Wrong. 🙂

Originally posted by Juntai
I wonder if Criss Angel had to register his powers.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Dont matter you're still......

Pwned 🙁

Originally posted by lando005
nah doc strange didnt

That was before he started jobbing and forgetting his powers. He basically told them at the time to go **** themselves and stop bothering him before he turns them into mice.

As a result, the gov. said he was exempt and to not bother him. 😄