GL Batman vs YL Batman

Originally posted by Blair Wind
"willpower overriding fear"

Willpower wins.

I like the assessment Spets, but do not agree with it. 😬

You have a very good point Blair, and that scan carries a lot of weight.

The point I was having, though, is that in the past Batman has discounted various powerful devices and powers .....he always rejects them.

For instance, he has rejected magic. He has rejected the Lazarus pit. And more recently (well, relatively), he refused to let a MotherBox heal him after taking a pounding on Apokolips. Barda asked him to let the MotherBox heal him, but he flatly refused.

Basically, Batman doesn't seem to go for enhancers (unless it is for certain pressing issues). Maybe that is why he refused to let the ring .....note, he also did not want the whole Green Lantern thing (again, only used for tactical reasons).

Also note that if he wanted to Batman could give himself meta abilities ....think that he had replicas of the entire JLA available, complete with powers. If Batman wanted to he could easily give himself meta abilities ....or at least something closer to a minitarized Tony Stark rather than a simple utility belt.

He doesn't.

It could be more to do with his persona .....and that is why he didn't want the ring.

The fear may be greater, but the willpower is strong enough that if he doesn't want it he doesn't want it.

Like glass .....at the same time very hard, but very brittle. At the same time. Hard enough that it will ALWAYS overcome the powers of a small bird trying to get inside a house, but will also ALWAYS break if dropped onto a hard floor.

Question ...if Batman is glass, is the fear the 'hardness' component or the 'brittle' aspect? And the willpower? Because both are there, and in high amounts, but one supercedes the other.

I say that for a human to be selected as a Qwardian ring wielder for a sector, and there are so many other frightful humans and creatures and metas on Earth (and not just on Earth, but in that ENTIRE sector)....but it chooses, first, a 'normal' human ....then something must be WRONG with his heart.

Although it is just my opinion ......

Originally posted by spetznaz
You have a very good point Blair, and that scan carries a lot of weight.

The point I was having, though, is that in the past Batman has discounted various powerful devices and powers .....he always rejects them.

For instance, he has rejected magic. He has rejected the Lazarus pit. And more recently (well, relatively), he refused to let a MotherBox heal him after taking a pounding on Apokolips. Barda asked him to let the MotherBox heal him, but he flatly refused.

Basically, Batman doesn't seem to go for enhancers (unless it is for certain pressing issues). Maybe that is why he refused to let the ring .....note, he also did not want the whole Green Lantern thing (again, only used for tactical reasons).

Also note that if he wanted to Batman could give himself meta abilities ....think that he had replicas of the entire JLA available, complete with powers. If Batman wanted to he could easily give himself meta abilities ....or at least something closer to a minitarized Tony Stark rather than a simple utility belt.

He doesn't.

It could be more to do with his persona .....and that is why he didn't want the ring.

The fear may be greater, but the willpower is strong enough that if he doesn't want it he doesn't want it.

Like glass .....at the same time very hard, but very brittle. At the same time. Hard enough that it will ALWAYS overcome the powers of a small bird trying to get inside a house, but will also ALWAYS break if dropped onto a hard floor.

Question ...if Batman is glass, is the fear the 'hardness' component or the 'brittle' aspect? And the willpower? Because both are there, and in high amounts, but one supercedes the other.

I say that for a human to be selected as a Qwardian ring wielder for a sector, and there are so many other frightful humans and creatures and metas on Earth (and not just on Earth, but in that ENTIRE sector)....but it chooses, first, a 'normal' human ....then something must be WRONG with his heart.

Although it is just my opinion ......

I take it more as he uses fear as a tool, not anything more than that. He instills great fear, and that has been his MO for a while now, but it is just a tool. It is what he deducted would best help him in taking care of the criminal element in Gotham. Criminals get stupid when they are afraid.

In fact while most people think that anger is what drives him and fear his what he uses, in a JLA/JSA special it was told how Bruce overcame (anger?) with Hope. Because hope is really what truly motivates him, hope that no one will ever fall victim to any criminal, or feel what he felt as an 8 year old child.