Phantom Zone
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Originally posted by Tron
BT doesn't have a spider-sense to assist like Spider-Man would.
No but hes still faster.
Originally posted by Tron
Did that poster provide some kind of reference?
No, all the poster said was that Mas should not be able to hurt bricks/class100s since they have been shown to take nukes, thors hammer etc. 😬
Originally posted by Tron
Anyway, most of Marvel's best martial artists have been shown to dodge and divert attacks, but haven't been shown to outright KO someone far stronger and durable than they are. With that said, as someone mentioned, BT's a good fighter, but hasn't been shown to be a great martial artist.
Well heres the thing see, im not going to tell you that I can be certain that BT is a great MA. This is the way I see it, he has had few showings but we have to deduce from the available information what is the most likely conclusion:
1. As stated before he has been training from birth to be BT. That obvoulsy would include MA skill.
2. His bio states that he is a highly skilled martial artist. I know bios can be wrong but they tend not to get stuff like this wrong, what they tend to get wrong is stats. Obvoulsy highly skilled is relative but that would probably mean he has at least some knowledge of weak points and pressure points.
3. I think the argument that he has not shown any MA skill is not that good. I think we need to take into account who he is fighting. Some characters do not show speed or skill if they are facing much weaker opponents, for example Collosus can seem slow but has on ocassion shown enhanced reflexes when it was needed. There is no motivation or need for BT to show MA skill against opponents like Spiderman or DD.
Originally posted by Tron
(And regarding Mantis, what probably wasn't mentioned was that she has the ability to sense an opponent's weak point, which was the only way she could take on Thor).
Ok , but the point I was making is that a weaker opponent can KO a much stronger opponent with enough skill, the question of course is wether BT is skilled enough.
Originally posted by Tron
A thunderclap is a radial attack, he's not dodging anything.
He is if he jumps behind it. Abomination most lilkely wont pull out the thunderclap until he has some trouble tagging BT. BT can win at least 1 fight via energy blasts through the eardrum. If Abomination does continuous thunderclaps then BT is ****ed.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Mantis is 100's of times better than BT in MA... and she's fairly strong as well.
Not to mention she cheapshotted Thor with a deathstrike, or something of that nature...
Ok , but the point I was making is that a weaker opponent can KO a much stronger opponent with enough skill, the question of course is wether BT is skilled enough.
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Hulk faster than Spider-Man, based off a lucky shot when Quicksilver basically ran into his hand? Eh? 😕
Hulk is not even close to that fighting speed...
Why was it lucky when he has been shown to catch and swat away missles?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Even with vast MA training...BT won't be able to hit hard enough to phase Abom. Emil Blonsky is a former spy for soviet yugoslavia and an ex-KGB agent. He's no slouch and he's a formidable H2H combatant.
He never uses his MA. I know ive used that argument for BT but I said that it depends on the opponent he is fighting.