Originally posted by psycho gundam
i meant as in you don't like hulk and any thread with him in it is an opportunity for you to stick it to him. 🙂
I just dont like when people put him up against people that are out of his league. Hulk is a one sided brick, brick vs brick is fine but brick vs some whos versatile is not good.
I dont give a crap what his fanboys or crap writing say.
Meh. I don't think Apoc could come CLOSE to taking Hulk out.
He should win, though. Apoc is ANCIENT as all Hell. Like, several thousands of years. With that, and the power to at least MATCH the Hulk in physical prowess, Apoc should win almost everytime, provided he makes it a "turn him into a horsemen" fight, and not a straight up brawl.
Straight up brawl, Hulk wins hands down. Fight with a purpose, Apoc hands down. Although, Apoc wouln't fight without a purpose. And if Apoc fights at ALL, it's with a purpose and very careful and proper prep. If Apoc wants someone as his horsemen, Apoc wins. If Apoc is drunk and looking for a fight, Hulk stomps him.
I get the feeling this is an intelligent scenario. Apoc wins 10/10. But by intelligence, not by physical ability. Apoc's proven before unable to subdue the Hulk physically. But with big words and vehement debate, with a touch of power-showing, Apoc could get Hulk's respect, loyalty, and even submission to a degree.
Bottom line, if Apoc's careful, Apoc wins.
The prob is, even THANOS has mentioned that he's weary(or whatever) of Hulk's potential. Apoc cannot match unlimited potential.
All I'm saying is, Apoc is WAY TOO wise to lose to ANY Hulk(except MAYBE WWHulk) in a pre-planned match. If Apoc has even a day of prep time, he takes it hands down. Not only is he Hulk-level power, he's several thousands of years old. With that kind of power, by sheer age and wisdom, he should win. Apoc is one of those guys. He could wrangle Thor if he had prep-time.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Because I'm asking for a headache, MC, who do you think can beat WWH physically? Or, hell...Savage Hulk.
Savage Hulk? With no majority in mind either way.
Superman
Thor
Sentry
Gladiator
Apocalypse
Silver Surfer
Any cosmic being
Martian Manhunter
Juggernaut
Death Of Superman Doomsday
Darkseid(maybe)
Batman with the GL ring
And some others I can't think of right now. All I ever argue is that no one wins "hands down" against Hulk, and certainly not in the simple ways that some of the dumber people on this forum say.
Like saying "Flash blitzes FTW". That's f**king stupid. Flash's punches wouldn't hurt Hulk and they'd break Flash's hands. I know Flash can punch hard because of the speed, but he's still physically human. I'm not gonna get into it, but I hate that shit. That's not even a debate. It makes it sound like, well Hell, why doesn't Flash just take over the world if he can take on Superman-level guys so easily? Or saying "Superman lobotomizes Hulk FTW". No, he doesn't. Hulk's taken heat vision before, and he would heal.
If someone makes a good point like "Superman is adept at utilizing his powers in a strategic and effective manner, in such a way that he could overwhelm Hulk with said powers that Hulk wouldn't be able to get a bead on him, and, in a moment where Hulk's confusion lowers his defense, Superman clocks Hulk for a KO".
See that? THAT'S a debate, a good point, a scenario, and a realistic outcome. Much better than "GL throws Hulk into space FTW". I mean really? Because Hulk's been known to be able to physically handle energy, and Hulk has usually been powerful enough to break through any force field. GL would have to be a tad more creative than that.
WWHulk? Physically, as in strength, durability, etc? That's the problem. WWHulk is a special version of Hulk. That's like saying who CAN beat Odinforce Thor as opposed to Classic Thor who's been beaten by a number of people. Special versions are usually hard to beat. Superman One Million, Batman with GL ring, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet, etc. WWHulk beat EVERYONE he fought, either by intelligence or hand to hand. In World Breaker mode, even moving his foot was a global threat. World Breaker wasn't a special Hulk, it was still WWHulk. An ANGRY WWHulk. If WWHulk didn't hold back, he would've destroyed Earth just by walking around.
So the rules haven't changed. A good debate will win. But with WWHulk, you just have to up the ante with who he's fighting. Just keep in mind that "world breaker" was simply WWHulk when he was pissed off. So WWHulk is capable of destroying a planet with ease, provided he gets pissed off.
Originally posted by The Nuul
Hulk has unlimited potential? 😆Yeah right.... 🙄
He hasnt shown anything like that. He hasnt beaten Current Thor, Current SS or anyone on that level.
Yup, IT ARE DE UNLIMITED!
Everytime Hulk runs out of energy against fighting someone who's barely herald level, a new best friend of his is going to die right nearby 😆
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yup, IT ARE DE UNLIMITED!Everytime Hulk runs out of energy against fighting someone who's barely herald level, a new best friend of his is going to die right nearby 😆
Is this yet ANOTHER comment on the so called "stalemate" against Sentry? For one, they NEVER stated WHY Hulk reverted to Banner, so saying he burned himself out is simply speculation, and shitty speculation as well, unless you're admitting Sentry is worse than Warrior Madness Thor, who Hulk has beaten before without reverting.
WWHulk is the ONLY time in Hulk's history where he's reverted, and it's easily theorized that it's because of the Sentry's unique aura effect on the Hulk.
Originally posted by Master Court
Is this yet ANOTHER comment on the so called "stalemate" against Sentry? For one, they NEVER stated WHY Hulk reverted to Banner, so saying he burned himself out is simply speculation, and shitty speculation as well, unless you're admitting Sentry is worse than Warrior Madness Thor, who Hulk has beaten before without reverting.
- Sentry IS below warrior madness Thor.
- Hulk was powered up.
- It was not true warrior madnes Thor.
- Even if it was, Hulk punched him away as the bomb landed, NOT a victory.
Couple of flaws in that pathetic post of yours.
Ok. Couple flaws. But not pathetic.
I still made my point.
Hulk took every hit madness Thor had, and then casually uppercuts his ass away. That's FACT. It was Warrior Madness. And you missed my point. If Hulk has gone the distance with Warrior Madness Thor, but "burned himself out" against Sentry, that would mean Sentry is more powerful than Warrior Madness Thor.
But nevermind ANY of that shit. When WWHulk went world breaker mode, he was exerting much more energy than before, even while holding back, and he didn't revert.
And never mind any of THAT shit; they never officially said one damn WORD about why Hulk reverted. So saying it's because he "burnt himself out" is still, regardless if I'm wrong or right, purely baseless speculation. You're wrong, I'm wrong, or rather neither of us are RIGHT. It's an unexplained phenomenon that has NEVER happened before, even during Hulk and Thor's hour-long test of strength. If you're going to exert energy against ANYONE, it's Thor. Or ONSLAUGHT. And Hulk didn't revert then. So it's no use using that as an argument.
This versus is Regular Hulk anyway, so Apocalypse wins.
F**k you on anything related to WWHulk. Give him a real challenge and it's something worth talking about.