Hitman's Team VS YOUR Team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Dgw2007
DC
Superman Prime
Superman 1M
Power Girl
LL
CM
WW
Marvel
8th day juggernaut
trion juggernaut
Extremis Iron Man
WWH
Sentry
Black Panther top those teams

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
God was in a weakened state, and was a arrogant incompetent prick. I don't recall it ever being shown how he transverses between Earth, Heaven and Hell so how he's done it is speculation at best. All we know, there could be a intangible visible only to angels doorways between heaven and hell. Even the incompetent sinful angels that unleashed him but had zero (as stated by themselves) power were able to travel between heaven and earth.

Satan wasn't expecting to get shot at and was mocking the Saint, actually.

It's not like he surprised Satan. He turned around and looked at him, and Satan was apologizing his ass off. If he was stronger than SOK, he would have told him to kiss off.

Yes, how he travels in between Heaven, Hell, and Earth is speculation but no more speculation than assuming transporting him into a black hole or having Doom switch bodies with him is. So don't act like your speculations are any more valid than mine when you have no proof.

What we DO know is SOK is the Angel of Death (not some super durable human). He can kill anything with his guns with one shot except for the undead. He was never hurt by anything and only controlled by the Voice. He slaughtered the entire heavenly host, including God, and killed Satan.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

So prove to me that the Omega Effect will work in a universe not ruled by the Source? See how that works?

Strawman.

Funny that you can't answer the same question when it's asked to you.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Someone needs to tell the writers then, because there should be no reason for Superman to survive everything he's been through (including taking on Etrigan) and still fall under the spell of a pitiful vampire.

Guy it is MAGIC. Magic doesn't follow any sets of rules or physics or care about what you've survived. Magic is its own thing. All intents and purposes, Darkseid is bitten by the same vamp that bit Superman he's going to get infected.

More speculation. Superman and Darkseid aren't in the same league.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
It's not like he surprised Satan. He turned around and looked at him, and Satan was apologizing his ass off. If he was stronger than SOK, he would have told him to kiss off.

He did surprise Satan, he was like YEAH YOU AND YOUR COLD FREEZING HELL OVER HEART ARE GONE then he turned around and Satan was like oops.

Yes, how he travels in between Heaven, Hell, and Earth is speculation but no more speculation than assuming transporting him into a black hole or having Doom switch bodies with him is. So don't act like your speculations are any more valid than mine when you have no proof.

If he's capable of escaping a black hole, then what abilities granted would allow him such?

Funny that you can't answer the same question when it's asked to you.

Strawman. Look it up.

More speculation. Superman and Darkseid aren't in the same league.

Darkseid himself has said Superman is his physical equal. What are you saying? What makes you think otherwise?

Originally posted by Hitman911
Your team would get owned!!! What part of diverse powers do people not get. You can't line up every Superman flunky and think they can best my team!! Like I said, you should assume that they have a remedy for ANY/Every version of Superman!!! Thus anyone with a similer powerset would also get owned!!!!

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
He did surprise Satan, he was like YEAH YOU AND YOUR COLD FREEZING HELL OVER HEART ARE GONE then he turned around and Satan was like oops.

Yeah, it sure looked like Satan was surprised and didn't know what was about to happen. Of course, if Satan didn't realize SOK was more powerful than him in the first place, he wouldn't have apologized.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Yes, how he travels in between Heaven, Hell, and Earth is speculation but no more speculation than assuming transporting him into a black hole or having Doom switch bodies with him is. So don't act like your speculations are any more valid than mine when you have no proof.

If he's capable of escaping a black hole, then what abilities granted would allow him such?

He is the Angel of Death. If he isn't able to traverse the universe, then what good is he at his purpose?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph


Funny that you can't answer the same question when it's asked to you.

Strawman. Look it up.

I know what strawman is. Let's run down the argument.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Burden of proof is on you to prove that they can't be afflicted by said mystical disease.

False. It's not up to someone to prove something can't be done. It's up to the person making the claim to prove it can be. My response:

Originally posted by celestialdemon
No, it's up to you to prove that mystical vampirism can affect a cosmic level being. If all you have is vampires affecting people below herald-level, then you have nothing at all.

Again, it's up to you prove it can be done, not me to prove it can't. Your response:

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Logical fallacy. Prove the Saint of Killers Angel of Death for Vertigo sub DC comics bullets of instant kill would work on characters under the jurisdiction of The One Above All. See how that works?

What we know is SOK is designed to one-shot any being that is alive. Will it work in the Marvel realm? There's no way to say for certain, but for the purpose of this forum, we assume all characters' abilities work across the board as they would in their own universe.

However, if we are to follow your logic and doubt SOK's power would work against people under TOAA's jurisdiction, then this statement of yours makes no sense:

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Omega Effect bfr?

The Omega Effect is something specific to the DC universe. It would also have no bearing on anything other than the DC universe. So, you contradicted your own previous argument. Hence, my statement:

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

So prove to me that the Omega Effect will work in a universe not ruled by the Source? See how that works?

So next time, try to come up with something better than simply Strawman.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
More speculation. Superman and Darkseid aren't in the same league.

Darkseid himself has said Superman is his physical equal. What are you saying? What makes you think otherwise?

The fact that Darkseid has shown himself Superman's superior more often than not. But you are more than welcome to put that battle on this board and see how it turns out.

Originally posted by Dgw2007
my both my teams would win

Originally posted by guy222
😕

Odin
Zeus
Zuras
Mikhail Rasputin
WWH

Hulk is not needed dumbass.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

Yeah, it sure looked like Satan was surprised and didn't know what was about to happen. Of course, if Satan didn't realize SOK was more powerful than him in the first place, he wouldn't have apologized.

He is the Angel of Death. If he isn't able to traverse the universe, then what good is he at his purpose?

I know what strawman is. Let's run down the argument.

False. It's not up to someone to prove something can't be done. It's up to the person making the claim to prove it can be. My response:

Again, it's up to you prove it can be done, not me to prove it can't. Your response:

What we know is SOK is designed to one-shot any being that is alive. Will it work in the Marvel realm? There's no way to say for certain, but for the purpose of this forum, we assume all characters' abilities work across the board as they would in their own universe.

However, if we are to follow your logic and doubt SOK's power would work against people under TOAA's jurisdiction, then this statement of yours makes no sense:

The Omega Effect is something specific to the DC universe. It would also have no bearing on anything other than the DC universe. So, you contradicted your own previous argument. Hence, my statement:

So next time, try to come up with something better than simply Strawman.

The fact that Darkseid has shown himself Superman's superior more often than not. But you are more than welcome to put that battle on this board and see how it turns out.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

Yeah, it sure looked like Satan was surprised and didn't know what was about to happen. Of course, if Satan didn't realize SOK was more powerful than him in the first place, he wouldn't have apologized.

Then why talk smack in the first place?

He is the Angel of Death. If he isn't able to traverse the universe, then what good is he at his purpose?

His purpose is to kill PEOPLE and collect lost souls ON EARTH. He's plenty good at his purpose.

False. It's not up to someone to prove something can't be done.

Yes it is, you're the one claiming this mystical disease that hasn't really shown problems afflicting anything outside of cosmic deity's (Lol @ you probably considering Darkseid a cosmic deity) with nothing but a because it won't argument.

It's up to the person making the claim to prove it can be. My response:

And you're the one making claims of never before seen vampiric immunity.

What we know is SOK is designed to one-shot any being that is alive. Will it work in the Marvel realm? There's no way to say for certain, but for the purpose of this forum, we assume all characters' abilities work across the board as they would in their own universe.

However, if we are to follow your logic and doubt SOK's power would work against people under TOAA's jurisdiction, then this statement of yours makes no sense:

Hence the strawman (you already knowing this should have seen it), I've already admitted SOK could kill the other team, the whole point was that you can't just say so and so is immune to Vampirism just because, prove your claims.

Oh noes Thanos is not going to become a vampire because he's Thanos

I guess Thanos won't be killed by Saint of Killers because he's under the One Above All.

The Omega Effect is something specific to the DC universe. It would also have no bearing on anything other than the DC universe. So, you contradicted your own previous argument. Hence, my statement:

Strawman.

So next time, try to come up with something better than simply Strawman.

Strawman.

The fact that Darkseid has shown himself Superman's superior more often than not.

Yeah, 15 years ago. Nowadays Darkseid gets his eyes turned into doorknobs, his Omega Effect stalemated by heat vision and pinned on the Source Wall while admitting Superman is his physical equal.

But you are more than welcome to put that battle on this board and see how it turns out.

It will turn out with me laughing at people like TricksterPriest.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Then why talk smack in the first place?

Because SOK was leaving Hell, and Satan was glad he was leaving.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
His purpose is to kill PEOPLE and collect lost souls ON EARTH. He's plenty good at his purpose.

He is referred to as THE angel of death, not an angel of death or Earth's angel of death.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yes it is, you're the one claiming this mystical disease that hasn't really shown problems afflicting anything outside of cosmic deity's (Lol @ you probably considering Darkseid a cosmic deity) with nothing but a because it won't argument.

Read my statements again. I never said Darkseid was a cosmic DEITY. I said he was a cosmic being, the same as Thanos, Surfer, and Genis.

Your only proof is a poorly written story that shows Superman being mentally controlled, not turned into a vampire. The story itself contradicts an earlier story where a vampire bit Superman and burned to death because of it.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
And you're the one making claims of never before seen vampiric immunity.

Show me someone greater than human-level being turned into a vampire. Don't both using Superman because he wasn't turned into one. He was just mentally controlled. Apocalypse was bitten by the most powerful vampire and was neither controlled or turned into a vampire either.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Hence the strawman (you already knowing this should have seen it), I've already admitted SOK could kill the other team, the whole point was that you can't just say so and so is immune to Vampirism just because, prove your claims.

Oh noes Thanos is not going to become a vampire because he's Thanos

Thanos is "immune" because he is greater than beings who have been bitten and haven't turned into a vampire. Could he be controlled? Debateable but since he has been shown to stand up to X-Man's mental powers, I doubt it very much.

Regardless, being mind-controlled by a vampire won't same him from SOK one-shotting him.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Strawman.

Strawman.

I caught your contradiction, so if this is all you have, then it's not worth debating anymore.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah, 15 years ago. Nowadays Darkseid gets his eyes turned into doorknobs, his Omega Effect stalemated by heat vision and pinned on the Source Wall while admitting Superman is his physical equal.

I'll let someone with more recent knowledge of Darkseid deal with that.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
It will turn out with me laughing at people like TricksterPriest.

Yeah, I saw you do that. Great debate. 🙄

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Because SOK was leaving Hell, and Satan was glad he was leaving.

Exactly, you'd think he'd wait till he was completely out of ear shot if he was so intimidated.

He is referred to as THE angel of death, not an angel of death or Earth's angel of death.

He's THE angel of death for Earth, which is why the story revolves around God hiding on Earth and God's need for love from the planet Earth. Care to provide actual reasoning of why he could get out of a blackhole?

Read my statements again. I never said Darkseid was a cosmic DEITY. I said he was a cosmic being, the same as Thanos, Surfer, and Genis.

And what does being a cosmic being have to do with being afflicted by a mystical disease?

Your only proof is a poorly written story that shows Superman being mentally controlled, not turned into a vampire.

Which is one more example of proof then you have.

The story itself contradicts an earlier story where a vampire bit Superman and burned to death because of it.

Not really, different vampires react differently to sunlight. Take Preacher verse Cassidy versus Movie Blade vampires.

Apocalypse was bitten by the most powerful vampire and was neither controlled or turned into a vampire either.

Good job, you've provided proof for Apocalypse, give yourself a cookie. Now do the same for Darkseid and Thanos.

Thanos is "immune" because he is greater than beings who have been bitten and haven't turned into a vampire.

Vague A>B>C logic without grasp for either context nor actual application.

Mar-Vell is greater then Deadpool (and a cosmic being to boot), guess that makes him immune to cancer, huh?

Could he be controlled? Debateable but since he has been shown to stand up to X-Man's mental powers, I doubt it very much.

What does X-Man have to do with anything?

Regardless, being mind-controlled by a vampire won't same him from SOK one-shotting him.

Being afflicted by vampirism (something you have yet to prove he is immune to), will.

I caught your contradiction, so if this is all you have, then it's not worth debating anymore.

No, you ignored a point which pointed out the hilariously glaring flaw in your argument and strawman'd yourself. Good job.

I'll let someone with more recent knowledge of Darkseid deal with that.

Deal with what? The truth?

Yeah, I saw you do that. Great debate. 🙄

Why thank you, it's hilarious how delusional some Darkseid fans are.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Sentry
Black Panther(for the prep)
classic Binary
Quasar (with starbrand)
Gilgamesh
Dr. Strange
Sersi
Captian America
Silver Surfer (current)
Gamora
Danger Room
Leech (fully realised)

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Exactly, you'd think he'd wait till he was completely out of ear shot if he was so intimidated.

So you think he was begging forgiveness when SOK turned around just for the fun of it?

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
He's THE angel of death for Earth, which is why the story revolves around God hiding on Earth and God's need for love from the planet Earth. Care to provide actual reasoning of why he could get out of a blackhole?

No, I can't, but you can't prove how he can travel from Heaven to Earth to Hell the way he does. He has to have some mode of transport, so until we know what that is, we don't know if he could escape a black hole or not. What we do know is that he is completely indestructible, so a black hole won't kill him.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
And what does being a cosmic being have to do with being afflicted by a mystical disease?

The fact that cosmic beings are generally greater than human-based ones. In this case, Thanos and Darkseid are greater than Apocalypse and, in the case of Thanos, knows more about mysticism than Apocalypse does.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Which is one more example of proof then you have.

But still doesn't prove Superman can be turned into a vampire. Try again.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Not really, different vampires react differently to sunlight. Take Preacher verse Cassidy versus Movie Blade vampires.

We aren't talking about movie Blade vampires or Cassidy (both of whom could still be killed by sunlight). We are talking about 2 vampires from the same universe attacking the same person.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Good job, you've provided proof for Apocalypse, give yourself a cookie. Now do the same for Darkseid and Thanos.

Why do I have to provide a specific example of them not being affected by the disease when you can't provide one of them being affected? I've proven that it can be resisted by a lesser being who didn't use any special powers in order to do it.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Vague A>B>C logic without grasp for either context nor actual application.

Mar-Vell is greater then Deadpool (and a cosmic being to boot), guess that makes him immune to cancer, huh?

Talk about strawman.

Deadpool's ability is to heal from injury and disease. Mar-Vell's isn't. In the case of Apocalypse, he doesn't have a special ability that allows him to resist the disease, yet he was able to do it. Apocalypse's durability and willpower pale in comparison to Thanos'. There should be no reason why it would affect him, either.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What does X-Man have to do with anything?

The fact that Superman was mentally being controlled, not turned into a vampire. Thanos' mental powers are strong enough to take on arguably the most powerful telepath in the Marvel universe. A vampire isn't going to stand a chance at controlling him.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Being afflicted by vampirism (something you have yet to prove he is immune to), will.

You have yet to prove he can be affected. I've shown you that a lesser being, who doesn't have a special ability to resist vampirism, was able to do it, so there should be no reason why a more powerful being, with more durability, willpower, and knowledge of mysticism, wouldn't be able to.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
No, you ignored a point which pointed out the hilariously glaring flaw in your argument and strawman'd yourself. Good job.

No, you first suggested SOK could be BFR'd using the Omega Force. You then suggested that SOK's one-kill power wouldn't work against people who are governed by TOAA. I pointed out that your contradiction by stating that the Omega Effect would work on people from other companies but SOK's power wouldn't. That's it.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So you think he was begging forgiveness when SOK turned around just for the fun of it?

No, I'm saying if SOK is so unbeatable why even risk pissing him off in the first place.

No, I can't, but you can't prove how he can travel from Heaven to Earth to Hell the way he does.

Once again, I have nothing to prove, you're the one claiming he escapes a black hole or sun dump or a source wall stick

somehow.

Back your claims up.

The fact that cosmic beings are generally greater than human-based ones.

Your point? Magic doesn't really care what you are, you could say the same thing about SOK's bullets. They only work on human beings (now that I think about it, I don't remember him shooting animals and NO I'm not saying that they only work on human beings, since I HAVE to now point out every facet of my argument otherwise it's a contradiction). Hence burden of proof is on you to prove they have this unprecedented immunity.

But still doesn't prove Superman can be turned into a vampire. Try again.

Was bitten and put under it's thrall, all I know, the solar energy inside of him fought off the virus.

We are talking about 2 vampires from the same universe attacking the same person.

To two entirely different effects. Blade's a vampire and so is Morbius, are they one and the same?

Why do I have to provide a specific example of them not being affected by the disease when you can't provide one of them being affected?

Because you're the on claiming that they have a immunity, with no proof other then hearsay.

Deadpool's ability is to heal from injury and disease.

So? Deadpool = human Mar-Vell = cosmic being. Him > Deadpool (your logic).

The fact that Superman was mentally being controlled, not turned into a vampire.

But was still affected by the bite.

Thanos' mental powers are strong enough to take on arguably the most powerful telepath in the Marvel universe.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure they are.

A vampire isn't going to stand a chance at controlling him.

You have yet to prove he can be affected.

I don't have to, the burden of proof is on the one stating the characters ability to go above and beyond. Why am I to believe they cannot be afflicted by vampirism when your argument is the (terrible) prove they can?

I'll prove they can when you prove Saint of Killers bullets specifically work on Eternals (Thanos) and New Gods (Darkseid).

No, you first suggested SOK could be BFR'd using the Omega Force.

Yup, and your reply is SOK has an unseen power of teleportation in your special edition of Preacher.

You then suggested that SOK's one-kill power wouldn't work against people who are governed by TOAA.

No, that was a jab at your bad argument. Hence the strawman, K?

I never claimed SOK's guns wouldn't work on him

I said

You want me to prove that Vampirism can effect Thanos and Darkseid when no such proof exists even though the burden of proof is on YOU to show why they are immune

Then (that's like saying) you go out your way and prove that SOK's bullets would work on Thanos when no such proof exists while the burden of proof would be on me to prove why he is immune.

Strawman.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
No, I'm saying if SOK is so unbeatable why even risk pissing him off in the first place.

It wasn't a matter of power. It was a matter of purpose. Satan thought that he was safe because of who he was. Even the former Angel of Death said "Can you even begin to conceive of what this means? You can't do that. You can't kill the devil." Obviously, SOK didn't give a damn.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Once again, I have nothing to prove, you're the one claiming he escapes a black hole or sun dump or a source wall stick somehow.

Back your claims up.

So I have to prove he can escape a black hole, but you don't have to prove that the vampire curse can effect Thanos and Darkseid? Hypocrite.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Your point? Magic doesn't really care what you are, you could say the same thing about SOK's bullets. They only work on human beings (now that I think about it, I don't remember him shooting animals and NO I'm not saying that they only work on human beings, since I HAVE to now point out every facet of my argument otherwise it's a contradiction). Hence burden of proof is on you to prove they have this unprecedented immunity.

It is STATED that he can kill any living thing. He killed humans, angels, Satan, and God. The only thing he didn't kill in one shot was Cassidy because he was undead. So unless this is zombie Thanos and Darkseid, they die.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Was bitten and put under it's thrall, all I know, the solar energy inside of him fought off the virus.

But you don't know. You are speculating. What we DO know is he didn't turn into a vampire.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
To two entirely different effects. Blade's a vampire and so is Morbius, are they one and the same?

Blade is a hybrid human/vampire. Morbius is a scientifically created vampire. Both are completely different from the 2 traditional vampires that both bit Superman.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Because you're the on claiming that they have a immunity, with no proof other then hearsay.

You are the one claiming they would be affected by the disease without a shred of evidence. You don't have a single claim that even backs it up. Until you do, I don't have to refute anything.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
So? Deadpool = human Mar-Vell = cosmic being. Him > Deadpool (your logic).

Let's try it again but slower. Deadpool specializes in healing. Mar-Vell doesn't. So Mar-Vell can be affected by a disease that Deadpool won't be. Apocalypse doesn't specialize in healing. Neither does Thanos. Neither one have an special immunity to vampirism. Yet, Apocalypse, whom is weaker than Thanos in EVERY aspect, was able to not only prevent himself from turning into a vampire but also wasn't mind-controlled.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
But was still affected by the bite.

But wasn't turned into a vampire.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Suuuuuuuuuuuuure they are.

Not my fault if you haven't read it.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
You have yet to prove he can be affected.

I don't have to, the burden of proof is on the one stating the characters ability to go above and beyond. Why am I to believe they cannot be afflicted by vampirism when your argument is the (terrible) prove they can?

Because it's the job of the person making the claim that it CAN be done to prove it can be. You are claiming they can be affected by the vampire curse. I say they can't. Take a logic class.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I'll prove they can when you prove Saint of Killers bullets specifically work on Eternals (Thanos) and New Gods (Darkseid).

It is STATED that SOK's bullets will kill any living thing. Any living thing he fired on was killed. So, unless Eternals and New Gods are undead, it will kill them. Now, show me where it states the vampire curse will work on any living being.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yup, and your reply is SOK has an unseen power of teleportation in your special edition of Preacher.

No, my reply was that if the team hoped to conquer the universe, then doing a BFR is only a temporary solution. They will still have to face him, because he will still be somewhere in the universe.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
No, that was a jab at your bad argument. Hence the strawman, K?

I never claimed SOK's guns wouldn't work on him

I said

You want me to prove that Vampirism can effect Thanos and Darkseid when no such proof exists even though the burden of proof is on YOU to show why they are immune

Then (that's like saying) you go out your way and prove that SOK's bullets would work on Thanos when no such proof exists while the burden of proof would be on me to prove why he is immune.

Strawman.

You obviously don't understand logic then. Yes, I want you to prove that vampirism can affect Thanos and Darkseid. If no such proof exists, then it's not up to me to prove it won't affect them. That's just stupid.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
It wasn't a matter of power. It was a matter of purpose. Satan thought that he was safe because of who he was. Even the former Angel of Death said "Can you even begin to conceive of what this means? You can't do that. You can't kill the devil." Obviously, SOK didn't give a damn.

If he thought he was safe because who he was, why was he so shook when SOK turned around?

So I have to prove he can escape a black hole, but you don't have to prove that the vampire curse can effect Thanos and Darkseid? Hypocrite.

Do you understand the basic principles of backing your claims?

It is STATED that he can kill any living thing. He killed humans, angels, Satan, and God. The only thing he didn't kill in one shot was Cassidy because he was undead. So unless this is zombie Thanos and Darkseid, they die.

He couldn't kill God sitting on his thrown possibly because that's the only way he becomes Immortal like an Eternal. Once again failure to grasp the basic concepts of debate. Nobody's arguing he can't kill so and so, it's showing you how weak your argument is.

But you don't know. You are speculating. What we DO know is he didn't turn into a vampire.

Just like how you are speculating DS and Thanos are immune to vampirism just because.

Blade is a hybrid human/vampire. Morbius is a scientifically created vampire. Both are completely different from the 2 traditional vampires that both bit Superman.

Dracula and Deacon Frost, are they the same?

You are the one claiming they would be affected by the disease without a shred of evidence.

Shred of evidence? It's a mystical disease that affects damn near everyone. Now you prove that these two would be excpetions to the rule.

Let's try it again but slower.

Nobody cares, it was a jab at your using RACE as a way to determine who's effected by vampirsm.

Not my fault if you haven't read it.

Not my fault, not even Starlin shares your opinion.

Because it's the job of the person making the claim that it CAN be done to prove it can be.

No, it's the job of the person disputing exceptions to a rule. Learn to debate.

It is STATED that SOK's bullets will kill any living thing. Any living thing he fired on was killed. So, unless Eternals and New Gods are undead, it will kill them. Now, show me where it states the vampire curse will work on any living being.

Nobody cares.

No, my reply was that if the team hoped to conquer the universe, then doing a BFR is only a temporary solution. They will still have to face him, because he will still be somewhere in the universe.

No they wouldn't, he's stuck in a blackhole/on the sun.

You obviously don't understand logic then.

Quit talking about yourself, it's frightening the children.

Yes, I want you to prove that vampirism can affect Thanos and Darkseid.

I don't have to prove anything, you're the one claiming that Thanos and Darkseid are immune to vampirism. Since you can't prove they are, Thanos and Darkseid can be afflicted by vampirism until evidence is presented saying otherwise.

And no, because I said so is not valid evidence. Sorry.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
If he thought he was safe because who he was, why was he so shook when SOK turned around?

Because he didn't think SOK had the guts to do anything to him.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Do you understand the basic principles of backing your claims?

I do, and unlike you, I admit that I am speculating. But what I do know is somehow he can travel from Heaven to Hell to Earth. Whether he can also travel out of a black hole is unknown. But here's where we differ. I can't prove he can get out of a black hole, so I don't state it as fact. You can't prove Thanos and Darkseid can be affected by vampirism, but you do state it as fact.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
He couldn't kill God sitting on his thrown possibly because that's the only way he becomes Immortal like an Eternal. Once again failure to grasp the basic concepts of debate. Nobody's arguing he can't kill so and so, it's showing you how weak your argument is.

Eternals aren't immortal. Thanos has died. Your argument fails.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Just like how you are speculating DS and Thanos are immune to vampirism just because.

Because you failed to prove they can be.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Dracula and Deacon Frost, are they the same?

Yes, the only difference is that Dracula is stronger.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Shred of evidence? It's a mystical disease that affects damn near everyone. Now you prove that these two would be excpetions to the rule.

Show me where it states that it can affect "damn near everyone".

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Not my fault, not even Starlin shares your opinion.

Show me where he states that.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
No, it's the job of the person disputing exceptions to a rule. Learn to debate.

Show me where the rule is. You can't even do that. Show me that, then it will be my job to show the exception.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Nobody cares.

Because you have nothing.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
No they wouldn't, he's stuck in a blackhole/on the sun.

If he can't get out, then fair enough.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I don't have to prove anything, you're the one claiming that Thanos and Darkseid are immune to vampirism. Since you can't, Thanos and Darkseid can be afflicted by vampirism until evidence is presented.

I can't prove that the LT can't be affected by vampirism also. Does that mean he can?

I can't prove he can get out of a black hole

Good, so Saint of Killers loses if he gets BFR'd into a blackhole, concession accepted.

Because you failed to prove they can be.

I don't have to prove they can be as you're the one arguing my point. Prove they can't, don't ask for a negative. 😂

I can't prove that the LT can't be affected by vampirism also. Does that mean he can?

Yeah, he can, LT can damn well do whatever he pleases, just like how Thanos could make himself into a vampire if he so desired with a months prep.

Originally posted by celestialdemon

Yeah, it sure looked like Satan was surprised and didn't know what was about to happen. Of course, if Satan didn't realize SOK was more powerful than him in the first place, he wouldn't have apologized.

That red boy definitely saw it coming, and feared what was coming.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph

Good, so Saint of Killers loses if he gets BFR'd into a blackhole, concession accepted.

I don't have to prove they can be as you're the one arguing my point. Prove they can't, don't ask for a negative. 😂

You see how much of a moron you sound like. I brought up that a black hole wouldn't be able to stop SOK because he can travel at will. You FAILED to disprove that, stating you want proof that he can. According to your "logic" of vampirism, I don't have to prove it because you are the one arguing my point. You have to prove that he can't. However, i am logical enough to understand that him teleporting is just a theory because it's never been shown. You, on the other hand, are too stubborn to do the same. Double standard from a hypocrite. No point in continuing to argue with you.

Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah, he can, LT can damn well do whatever he pleases, just like how Thanos could make himself into a vampire if he so desired with a months prep.

Except for defeat the HOTI, right? But let's not go that high. According to your "logic", vampirism will work unless the character can prove otherwise to be immune to it or can "damn well do whatever he pleases". So, the following people are part of a VERY short list who are susceptible to it: Odin, Surtur, Galactus, Watcher, The Stranger, Atum, Dormammu, Shuma-Gorath, Phantom Stranger, Ganthet, Yuga Khan, and Krona.

Wow. Go vampirism! flex