Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Off topic but I think they need to revamp the Exemplars. I thought some of them were a bit lame.They should changed so they are as follows:
Mental(Telekinesis & Telepathy) Exemplar
Strength & Durability Exemplar
Tech(Technopath) & Weapons & Martial Arts Exemplar
Time (Speed & teleporter plus degree of control over time) Exemplar
Magic and Soul Exemplar
Elemental & Energy Manipulator ExemplarAnd two more Exemplars which I can't think of.
Well McFarlane created them to be a mega team buster, I think he did a prety good job. You may have a point though. I think that he should have given them the ability to form a psionic gestalt, (In english fusion) which they would combine to form a mighty being more powerful than the single beings that they received their powers from initially.... Just a thought.
Originally posted by llagrok
Stonecutter and Bedlam would give the JLA one hell of a time.
Some of the others weren't too impressive, but powerful nonetheless.
I would give it to the JLA on the count of speedblitz.
Not as impressive? Look closely at the JLA's line up. Aquaman and Batman are weak links all of the exemplars could put them away, which leaves 8 on 6. 8th Day Juggernaut is mightier than anyone on the JLA and without PIS/CIS none of them should be able to hurt him. Stonecutter showing that he could go toe to toe with 8th Day Juggs without missing a beat shows that neither WW, MM,or CM would be a problem for him one on one. But MM would have a huge problem with Inferno.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Not as impressive? Look closely at the JLA's line up. Aquaman and Batman are weak links all of the exemplars could put them away, which leaves 8 on 6. 8th Day Juggernaut is mightier than anyone on the JLA and without PIS/CIS none of them should be able to hurt him. Stonecutter showing that he could go toe to toe with 8th Day Juggs without missing a beat shows that neither WW, MM,or CM would be a problem for him one on one. But MM would have a huge problem with Inferno.
Carnivore and Tempest are also weak links in my opinion and incredibly suspectible to speedblitz. Characters like Superman, Wonder Woman or MM can easily just blitz them into oblivion. Inferno would be hell for MM, yeah. Decay is possibly the weakest one though, as I can see him being one-shotted by a simple range attack.
It's not happening, Stonecutter could come up with a device to nullify Flash's connection to the speed force, people seem to think it takes him hours to whip up devices but it only took him seconds to take control of Ironmans armor. Superman would be to busy fighting Captain marvel to be a factor.....??? Huh! Bedlam has could easily mind control Superman like Max Lord did. As I said before Carnivore may look like Sabretooth but he was taking shots from Thor without being fazed, Batman and Aquaman would fall to his superior fighting savagery. I haven't even brought up 8th Day Juggernaut yet. The Exemplars would overcome the JLA one by one and place each in a stasis foeld that they could not overcome.
Bedlam doesn't have the same MIND feats that MM has done on panel. With that said...MM>>>>>Bedlam...unless you have evidence to prove otherwise. MM protects the JLA from being mind raped...so, I don't thing Bedlam would be much use in this fight.
Anyways....MM has so many more physical advantages on Bedlam...that I just don't see him competing with J'onn in this fight.
As far as Flash goes...well, with PIS off...he can speed force dump anyone in this fight in the first microsecond...that's why he is so damn powerful. Without PIS...Flash would be virtually unbeatable by anyone below high skyfather level.
Originally posted by Evangel94
Bedlam is the Juggernaut of the Mind. So if Cain Marko (who is the Juggernaut of strength and invulnerability) is any indiciation of how powerful Bedlam is, then she is pretty powerful.Plus she is empowered by a god, and I seriously doubt the god would want a weakling avatar representing him.
Speculation. None of the Exemplars have the feats to put them on Juggernaut's level of threat, let alone the JLA.
Flash speedforce dumps them.
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
None? Stonecutter was stalemating Juggernaut.
Stalemating Juggernaut is nothing special, really. The JLA have defeated threats much much greater than Juggernaut. Take for instane Despero...I'm sure his mental abilities far surpass Bedlam's...and the JLA won. JLA have defeated Doomsday, Darkseid, Shaggy Man, Imperiex Prime, Mageddon...the list goes on and on.
I'm pretty sure 8th Day Jugernaut would run through Despero, and many of the others you mentioned all by himself. Stalemating him is no easy feat as he nearly crushed the life out of Thor with ease. The Exemplars are in a whole other league. But just to humor people that believe the League would win I would give them the first match as a victory and thats a huge maybe. If they fought multiple times Stonecutter would have something for each of them all by himself. His powers allow him to create anything. He could in fact create a machine to allow all of the Exemplars to move at the same speed as the Flash, or just create something to strip them all of their powers barring perhaps Hal because his ring is metaphysical. Like I said before Poor Hal.