And operator, Godwave actually destroyed and remade all of creation in that arc.
Not to mention after Ares' absorbed the godwave, Darkseid himself was powering the platform.
Most of our power. It was created to tap into the power of Godwave but that wasn't available at that moment.
Makes sense since Ares had actually absorbed the entirety of Godwave.
Originally posted by abhilegendMost of our power. It was created to tap into the power of Godwave but that wasn't available at that moment.
Even better. Now you're implying that Desaad is somehow, for reasons i can't possibly fathom, comparable to the Godwave even in the most tiniest way. Because going by your interpretation, that's what it implies.
But anyway, read your own scan, it says that their power is maintaining the platform's stability. Why? because it was damaged, flip a few pages back and you'll see it for yourself:
http://i.imgur.com/vlIJNoN.jpg
That's hardly what id call Darkseid/Desaad empowering the platform, which in turn, froze Ares.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Makes sense since Ares had actually absorbed the entirety of Godwave.
Yup. Makes sense. Remember when Batman beat Desaad, after enduring huge amounts of torture no less, in JLA: Rock of Ages? Yeah, Batman > Desaad > Godwave/ultimate power in the multiverse. Now it finally makes sense 👆
Originally posted by operator616
Even better. Now you're implying that Desaad is somehow, for reasons i can't possibly fathom, comparable to the Godwave even in the most tiniest way. Because going by your interpretation, that's what it implies.But anyway, read your own scan, it says that their power is maintaining the platform's stability. Why? because it was damaged, flip a few pages back and you'll see it for yourself:
http://i.imgur.com/vlIJNoN.jpg
That's hardly what id call Darkseid/Desaad empowering the platform, which in turn, froze Ares.
Yup. Makes sense. Remember when Batman beat Desaad, after enduring huge amounts of torture no less, in JLA: Rock of Ages? Yeah, Batman > Desaad > Godwave/ultimate power in the multiverse. Now it finally makes sense 👆
Like I said, no need to be snarky. I just posted what I see in the comic. As for using "our power" as somehow Desaad's power with Darkseid?
"Darkseid has captured his prey."
"The victory belong to me."
So I don't know how you came to the conclusion that Desaad's power was used in that task.
srug
Originally posted by abhilegend
I knew that the platform was damaged. The godwave wasn't available for the platform though and that's undisputable.
"Godwave available on the platorm"...?
Anyway, i have a question for you: So you actually genuinly believe that Darkseid, without breaking a sweat, froze Ares in possession of the Godwave?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Like I said, no need to be snarky. I just posted what I see in the comic. As for using "our power" as somehow Desaad's power with Darkseid?"Darkseid has captured his prey."
"The victory belong to me."
So I don't know how you came to the conclusion that Desaad's power was used in that task.
srug
Im not sure what's your point here. At all. Yes, Darkseid orchestrated this event and all the others who are helping him are his puppets according to him. Darkseid always thinks himself superior to all beings, that's why he says that victory belongs to him and not any other. He also acts very arrogantly in front of someone like Kalibak. I remember a scene from New Gods v3, when Darkseid said that there are primal forces above him, yet when Kalibak actually asked him what are those forces Darkseid's reply was literally something like "you heard wrong, i never said such a thing, and im the ultimate power in existence" (no kidding). That's not exactly something new with Darkseid to act in such a way. You should, and probably do, know that.
And just because he thinks himself superior to everyone doesn't mean he actually is, similaraly to how he actually thought that he predated all the other gods, while in fact he was mind-raped by Hecate into thinking so, as revealed in Wonder Woman v2 #19.
Anyway, imo, Darkseid used his power to stabilize the platform, which froze Ares.
That said, we'll have to just agree to disagree and move on.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway what do you think about Godwave destroying and recreating whole creation in an instant?
That's how it should be depicted and it's pretty cool. The same thing happened when the Old Gods' world (who are actually the asgardians, and the ancestors of the new gods) exploded. So it wouldn't be the first time.
Besides, remember what happened in the Spectre tie in? Spectre literally containing all the universes inside him while he possessed the power of the source. That's also badass.
But most importantly: That's exactly the reason why Darkseid couldn't have frozen Ares 🙂
Originally posted by operator616
That's how it should be depicted and it's pretty cool. The same thing happened when the Old Gods' world (who are actually the asgardians, and the ancestors of the new gods) exploded. So it wouldn't be the first time.Besides, remember what happened in the Spectre tie in? Spectre literally containing all the universes inside him while he possessed the power of the source. That's also badass.
But most importantly: That's exactly the reason why Darkseid couldn't have frozen Ares 🙂
Where does cronus rank in the sky father hiearchy? Above or below odin?
Originally posted by Golgo13
Where does cronus rank in the sky father hiearchy? Above or below odin?
He's got a lot of implied power. Going by implied power, he is supposed to be universal, but he lacks actual showings. That's why if i had to go in terms of feats, id pick Marvel's Odin.
As for his standing in DC's skyfather hierarchy. He's on par with the other titans but above the Olympian gods since they already defeated them (and Cronus defeated Zeus personally) in New Teen Titans v1 #12:
http://i.imgur.com/qeG8ddk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qxWJoCS.jpg
So we know that Cronus' standing in DC is above skyfathers such as Zeus. If you take into account that he ruled all creation, though, then he'd be much more since Olympus is only a part of the whole universe which Zeus rules (it's pocket dimension).
It's up to each one to determine if he buys into implied power.
