Science and the Vedas

Started by inimalist3 pages

lol

so, any other points about Chopra that aren't tied into a martyr complex?

like, do you want to actually discuss the stuff he talks about, relate it to the Vedas, and discuss it scientifically? or is holding the scientific claims of an individual whose work you brought up to scientific scrutiny too aggressive for this discussion?

love Chopra? read how he hoodwinked a major medical journal for personal profits:

http://www.aaskolnick.com/naswmav.htm

SoD's insults aside, I'm still planning on offering a formal rebuttal at some point, only because Chopra's generally not easy to refute at surface level unless you're familiar with his tactics and scientific flaws. And for anyone else interested in him (he can be charismatic) it's good to have some reasoning on both sides.

Quantum weight loss ftw!

And nice link.

Most of my personal qualms with Chopra stem from philosophical and spiritual disagreements. Inimilist's link covers how he has been duplicitous in order to spread his message and increase his wealth. The following link is concerned mainly with how his messages intercede with the medical community:

http://www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/chopra.html

This is a small sample of scientific protestations, indicative of a much larger field of pseudo-scientific debunking. For those more interested in such materials I'd recommend John Diamond's Snake Oil and Other Preoccupations, which goes into far more detail about a variety of alternative medicine techniques.

In a nutshell, there's a reason "alternative" medicine isn't mainstream: it lacks testability, or the repeated results that legitimize mainstream medicine. Protests occur in the form of anecdotal stories, which is just that...anecdotal, not statistical. Very few will deny the occasional benefit of relaxation techniques to aid in healing, which would seem to endorse practices such as meditation or acupuncture. But these consistently show no benefits beyond more traditional stress-reducing techniques such as massages or simple rest. A placebo. Not harmful, but nothing special either.

The danger comes with more invasion forms of alternative medicine. Various ointments, pills, supplements, cure-alls, and diets. Chopra's personal snake oil goes into this realm by possibly being dangerous in sufficient quantities.

The dissenting opinion at the bottom of the link is fairly standard. Some appeals to the evil of organized business and/or medicine (almosy unanimously unsupported), followed by an anecdote that they use as definitive proof to the contrary.