DC villans vs Avengers

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Originally posted by Priest
For the record, Thor is stronger than Blackadam.
Gotta agree. He's more versatile too. And the fact that Thor is more powerful than before (levitating Asgard, taking the Destroyer) is going to help the Marvel team a lot.

Cap is also on the Marvel team and he can do wonders, even with only 2 minutes of prep. Marvel takes it.

Yes but Black Adam is faster than Thor so point moot. Also Thor is not strong enough that it's gonna make a difference.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well sometimes lack of feats doesnt mean weaker than. Adam may have the lack of feats, but strength wise hes as strong as Supes. Its even been said he hits harder than Billy when its been said that Billy is as strong as Supes himself. Adams combat speed is also better than Thors.

There are also instances where Thor matched the Hulk's strength in battle . He gabbled with the Hulk for hours in strength battle.
Also with the mjinor of cource Thor's hits MUCH harder than Adam IMO.

Adam is faster than Thor, but Thor is more versatile.

Nothings stopping grodd from mindraping all of them.

Except he isn't mindraping Sentry, and I have doubts he could do it to Vision as well.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except he isn't mindraping Sentry, and I have doubts he could do it to Vision as well.

Sentry? The same one with emotional problems, and the willpower of a sponge? Yes he is.

Vision won't be a problem. Black adam will tear his head off like he did to amazo.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except he isn't mindraping Sentry, and I have doubts he could do it to Vision as well.
He could, but Sentry wouldn't be defenseless. Also, it wouldn't be so easy to mindrape Thor, especially now and I don't think Vision could either.

Yes Sentry, one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet, the one who erased the memory of his existence from everyone, the one who even when not aware of his powers had to actively let Emma Frost into his brain because he was so powerful...

What does Black Adam have to do with Grodd not being able to mindrape Vision?

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes Sentry, one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet, the one who erased the memory of his existence from everyone, the one who even when not aware of his powers had to actively let Emma Frost into his brain because he was so powerful...

Bullshit.

That was reeds machine. Show me a scan of sentry doing anything telepathic that superman couldnt do with t-vo. Or even approaching Grodds.

Originally posted by Mindset
What does Black Adam have to do with Grodd not being able to mindrape Vision?

Because Black adam will rip visions head off before grodd gets the chance to try to mindrape him... the same way that he did amazo.

Strange couldn't get into Sentry's head. And Emma Frost needed permission from Bob to enter it.
Thor won't be mind raped either.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Bullshit.

That was reeds machine. Show me a scan of sentry doing anything telepathic that superman couldnt do with t-vo. Or even approaching Grodds.

Because Black adam will rip visions head off before grodd gets the chance to try to mindrape him... the same way that he did amazo.

It was not Reed's machine, there was never even any mention of Reed having a machine causing everyone to forget. Mastermind manipulated Sentry into wiping everyones memory of him, Emma explained that the stronger the telepath the easier it was for Mastermind to manipulate them, this was all in New Avengers.

Vision could just turn intagible.

Originally posted by Mindset
It was not Reed's machine, there was never even any mention of Reed having a machine causing everyone to forget. Mastermind manipulated Sentry into wiping everyones memory of him, Emma explained that the stronger the telepath the easier it was for Mastermind to manipulate them, this was all in New Avengers.

Actually there was a mention of a machine. None of this was on panel. Again, what telepathic feats has he done on panel?

Originally posted by Mindset
Vision could just turn intagible.

And amazo could have just used the powers of mm to do the same thing, but appearently, that didnt work...

Dr Light can drain the light from things to power himself. He's a wily rapist. ermmhappy

Originally posted by Sirius77
Actually there was a mention of a machine. None of this was on panel. Again, what telepathic feats has he done on panel?

And amazo could have just used the powers of mm to do the same thing, but appearently, that didnt work...

Wiping everyones memory out, as was said in the comic. Emma not being able to forceable enter into his mind. There was never any mention of a machine, I have the copies of the Sentry arc of NA right here. The only device Reed used was one that searched his information databases and it found entries on Sentry.

*sigh* Amazo not using intangiblity does not equate to them not being able to work against BA.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wiping everyones memory out, as was said in the comic. Emma not being able to forceable enter into his mind.

Supposing he did wipe everyones mind by himself (which he didnt), when has he duplicated this feat or done something comparable

MM was unable to ener supermans mind forcefully... does that mean that hes the most powerful telepath on earth?

Originally posted by Mindset
There was never any mention of a machine, I have the copies of the Sentry arc of NA right here. The only device Reed used was one that searched his information databases and it found entries on Sentry.

It really doesnt matter. I saw it in a scan and am unashamed to say it. I know what I saw. Believe me or dont. But the point is moot because he has not shown any telepathy on that level on panel to my knowledge.

Originally posted by Mindset
*sigh* Amazo not using intangiblity does not equate to them not being able to work against BA.

So mm's intangibility is somehow inferior to visions now? Based upon? I mean its not like he had ww's lightspeed reflexes or anything... oh wait...

Originally posted by Sirius77
Supposing he did wipe everyones mind by himself (which he didnt), when has he duplicated this feat or done something comparable

MM was unable to ener supermans mind forcefully... does that mean that hes the most powerful telepath on earth?

It really doesnt matter. I saw it in a scan and am unashamed to say it. I know what I saw. Believe me or dont. But the point is moot because he has not shown any telepathy on that level on panel to my knowledge.

So mm's intangibility is somehow inferior to visions now? Based upon? I mean its not like he had ww's lightspeed reflexes or anything... oh wait...

Sentry had the power to do it, the only thing Mastermind did was make him do it against his will, just like if Mastermind did the same thing to Charles Xavier. In the comic it showed Mastermind doing this, then later Emma explained what had happened, which was Sentry erasing the memory of his existence from everyone's brain, including his own.

No, it doesn't mean Superman is the greatest telepath, but it shows he has a level of telepathic defense...

On panel he has shown to be able to keep high class telepaths from being able to forceable enter his mind, that alone shows he could resist mind rape...and I don't know what you saw, but I suggest you read the story again.

Reading Comprehension, my friend. The point being made was if Amazo was even using intangibilty when BA attacked him, not that Visions intangibility was superior.

Originally posted by Mindset
Sentry had the power to do it, the only thing Mastermind did was make him do it against his will, just like if Mastermind did the same thing to Charles Xavier. In the comic it showed Mastermind doing this, then later Emma explained what had happened, which was Sentry erasing the memory of his existence from everyone's brain, including his own.

Where did these 'telepathic' powers go? He hasnt shown them.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, it doesn't mean Superman is the greatest telepath, but it shows he has a level of telepathic defense...

The same thing can be said of sentry. That was my point.

Originally posted by Mindset
On panel he has shown to be able to keep high class telepaths from being able to forceable enter his mind, that alone shows he could resist mind rape...and I don't know what you saw, but I suggest you read the story again.

As I said. Superman has done the same thing, and he is not a telepath. Hell, so has wolverine.

Just because emma asked permission to enter his mind doesnt mean that hes suddenly charles xavier with an "s" on his chest. YOU read it again.

Originally posted by Mindset
Reading Comprehension, my friend. The point being made was if Amazo was even using intangibilty when BA attacked him, not that Visions intangibility was superior.

And what makes you think that vision will have the chance? Do you know how fast black adam is?

Classic Thor has been mind controlled before let me look for it.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Classic Thor has been mind controlled before let me look for it.

I'm sure he has by Loki or Enchantress, but by magic.

Originally posted by Priest
I'm sure he has by Loki or Enchantress, but by magic.
Not by telepathy?