Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dunno man Mags + Xavier > Child Celestial ...... I guess so I mean Magnetos powers can actually decrease the effects of psionic powers so when you think about it the master of magentism + the worlds most powerful telepath = bad ****ing news...Wait a minute who did they assimilate first...Nate or Franklin?
Originally posted by id369
Onslaught was Magneto and Professor X unleashed, plus his vary being was siphoning energy of every intelligent life form through out the Universe. That’s the reason, why Onslaught had impressive showings on his own. He then assimilated Franklin Richards, gaining is reality warping powers, along with farther busting his own. However he did not count on the fact that Franklins power fluctuate, which also left Onslaught unstable (remember he a personified form of raw energy). Nate took care of his fluxive state, and farther incriminated his powers. However for all the power incriminates he gained from Nate and Franklin, he never harnesses either’s full potential.
-It never said that Onslaught siphoned energy from every living being in the universe, it just said EVERY LIVING BEING.
-Onslaught had a reverse reality altering power similar to Xman in which he thinks of anything in the astral plane and shifting it to reality. This was far before he gained Franklins powers.
-I would say that Onslaught had full access to Franklin Richard and Xman's powers. Franklin and Xman did resist but the most resistant camptive was always Xavier, the one that Onslaught could never fully defeat was Charlie (child Xavier).
I dunno man Mags + Xavier > Child Celestial ...... I guess so I mean Magnetos powers can actually decrease the effects of psionic powers so when you think about it the master of magentism + the worlds most powerful telepath = bad ****ing news...Wait a minute who did they assimilate first...Nate or Franklin?
-According to Uatu Onslaught was far more than just a merging of Magneto and Xavier, he was practically a new being. Magneto as master of magnetism/gravity which is the building blocks of the universe isnt someone to mess around with.
-Magnetos power can actually increase psionic powers. Magneto through electromagnietism can mimic and also cancel out psionic energies. This is why Xavier and Jean combined still had trouble piercing Magneto's defenses.
-Franklin was assimilated first. One of the most important reason why Onslaught needed Franklin was to serve as bait in order to capture Nate (Xman). Onslaught had trouble capturing Xman because Nate was the first to notice the evil within Xavier, the first to distrust and the first oponent.
the fact of his power cannot be disputed, he created a blummin' pocket universe, the Celestials paid him (qualified) props!
he's got the power. just that Onslaught had more .basically, he's like a learner Celestial... got powers but not the wisdom nor the fullest access... which is why Ashema had to revive him, when he died.
Onslaught was more powerful than him, but I doubt Onslaught would have a chance against a grown up Celestial.
The final comic in the Onslaught saga points out that someone (most likely Onslaught) other than Franklin Richards created the pocket Universe. It was only the during and after the Heroes reborn saga that Marvel changed tackt.
I need you to stop for a minute and just think before you make comments.
Originally posted by monaroCountry
-It never said that Onslaught siphoned energy from every living being in the universe, it just said EVERY LIVING BEING.
Originally posted by monaroCountry
-Onslaught had a reverse reality altering power similar to Xman in which he thinks of anything in the astral plane and shifting it to reality. This was far before he gained Franklins powers.
Nice try, but Reed and Sue did not mention he would gain actual reality warping powers from young Franklin for nothing.
Originally posted by monaroCountry-I would say that Onslaught had full access to Franklin Richard and Xman's powers. Franklin and Xman did resist but the most resistant camptive was always Xavier, the one that Onslaught could never fully defeat was Charlie (child Xavier).
You are dead wrong again. By Onslaughts own words, if he can break down X-Man he would unlock the full secrets and accesses his full potential. Yet he resisted just like Franklin, that’s why he resorted in absorbing them to magnify his own powers. Thus he never achieved his full potential.
Originally posted by id369
Oh great, fantastic. I stand corrected, he brings wreckage to the universe from siphoning the collective energy of every living creature.
Pretty much!!!
Think of the MU as a living entity. Just looking at Xaviers battle with the Shadow King you see that whtever happens in the astral plane also has an affect in the physical plane. For example killing someone in the astral plane would also kill then in the physical plane.
Actually no, that is not really reality altering powers. That’s simply forming independent constructs from psionic energy. Shifting between planes was just another trick he picked up from X-Man.
Franklin Richards powers is basically similar to X-Man in that both are thought based. Franklin thinks of something and reforms reality, Nate thinks of something as creates it as reality. As previously stated both astral plane and the physical plane are closely intertwined, they are the two sides of the same coin.
Nice try, but Reed and Sue did not mention he would gain actual reality warping powers from young Franklin for nothing.
What are you talking about? There are several passages in the Onslaught saga which points out to Onslaught reconstructing the Universe.
You are dead wrong again. By Onslaughts own words, if he can break down X-Man he would unlock the full secrets and accesses his full potential. Yet he resisted just like Franklin, that’s why he resorted in absorbing them to magnify his own powers. Thus he never achieved his full potential.
Who cares about both Franklin and Xman resisting Onslaught. In the end Onlsaught was able to morph into his final form. Onslaught did have access and did acquire the full potential, not only that but he had a far greater control and command over those powers than both Xman and Franklin.
Ill scan something to prove my point later.
Originally posted by Lord S
I'm afraid that's impossible for him.This is the same guy who thinks Magneto>Power Cosmic.
Odin would show Onslaught the true definition of power.
How would he do that? by slapping Onslaught with his oversized sword? What happens when Onslaught turns into pure energy, when he no longer has a physical form to batter and cut?
Ive show a scan before of Dr Strange and Beast explaining why Magnetos power is basically a cosmic force. Scientifically magnetism and gravity is a foundation cosmic force............like before I asked why on what basis power cosmic is a cosmic force - scientifically. Please provide and answer to this!!!!!!
Originally posted by monaroCountry
How would he do that? by slapping Onslaught with his oversized sword? What happens when Onslaught turns into pure energy, when he no longer has a physical form to batter and cut?
It's possible to reanimate bodies with the odinforce, as Thor did so and admitted he wasn't close to Odin's level. Onslaught can easily be absorbed in his "invulnerable" form. The avengers did it with little trouble.
Onslaught won't do jack with telepathy, he hasn't shown impressive enough energy to even phase Odin. The only difference is that Odin could simply throw Onslaught back in time.