Cyclops vs Jason Todd H2H

Who wins?

You're kidding, yes?

Why should he be kidding?

Both are pretty good hand to hand fighters Cyclops has experience and is a pretty good tactician but Jason Todd is no slouch. Scott wins in my opinion 6/10.

Before this recent Scott's a badass that executes everything with extreme prejudice bull I would have said Todd in a stomp, now I give it to him 7/10

is this serous? jason is by far the superior h2h fighter

Originally posted by Battlehammer
is this serous? jason is by far the superior h2h fighter

Originally posted by iceman24567
I agree but i wouldn't say by far like i said Scott is more than brawn he has the battle sense going that would give him the edge along with experience i give him a slight majority. Jason isn't an idiot but he's no Dick Grayson or Tim Drake they both have brains that think strategically he doesn't have that on their levels or Scotts.

also jason is an expert stratagist and far more skilled then tim.

Have you even read anything about him?

scot can fight,but next to jason he no were near as skilled in h2h combat.

Tim was the detective

Jason was the fighter

And Dick is both.

But I've never really seen Jason come up with any exceptional tactical plans before, and I've pretty much read everything he has been in since his return.

Originally posted by Mindset
Tim was the detective

Jason was the fighter

And Dick is both.

But I've never really seen Jason come up with any exceptional tactical plans before, and I've pretty much read everything he has been in since his return.

yes I have. I said jason was the superior fighter not stratagist.

Please explain to me what stratagy scot could hope to come up with verse a superior and more physically fit individual who is also a great stratagist?

I can believe he's better than Tim at the moment. But not Nightwing. and Scott's no slouch, but I don't think his training is as good as Jason's.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes I have. I said jason was the superior fighter not stratagist.

Please explain to me what stratagy scot could hope to come up with verse a superior and more physically fit individual who is also a great stratagist?

How is he more physically fit?

Originally posted by Mindset
How is he more physically fit?

Jason has no real strength feats either...
At least none I recall.

Cyclops has dodged storms lightning and a swing from Wolverine though. (just checked the respect thread 🙂)

Originally posted by Mindset
Jason has no real strength feats either...
At least none I recall.

Cyclops has dodged storms lightning and a swing from Wolverine though. (just checked the respect thread 🙂)

whats not mention is the fact both storm and wolverine had been compeltely mind ****ed earlier and were far from there A game when scot forced them to attack him self.

Not to mention that was really prior to the development to the characters they are now.

Thats really scots best dodging feats. he not a physicall guy in combat he normally just uses his powers.

Yea, he still was able to dodge her bolt and a swing from Wolverine.

And like I said, I don't remember any strength feats for Jason.
Jason is not as good as Dick or Bruce, but he is still good.
But in my opinion this is not a stomp.

Jason in an absolute stomp.

todd

Originally posted by llagrok
Jason in an absolute stomp.

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He is just slightly below Batman 😬