Originally posted by Entity
Don't care how well it's selling or how good it is. I'm standing by what I said.Haven't bought or even looked at a Spidey comic since OMD other than what I see here on KMC.
Three more years until Marvel's 50th Anniversary. I'm willing to bet Spidey & Mary Jane will be reunited by then.
Brand New Day Spiderman is literally the best Spidey's been since the eighties.
This isn't because of One More Day... it's because it's the first time in decades we have writer who writes a fun, clever, and action packed Spiderman. Whoa. What a revelation that good writers make good comic books.
I don't have a clue what all of you who are hating on current Spiderman are so up in arms about. Slott is writing the shit out of Spidey write now.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I seriously doubt that...
Have you been reading the Dan Slott issues?
Lets see. Since the late eighties, we've had the debacles of Spiderman that have been the original, Marvel identity crisis- when all those shitty characters like Ricochet replaced Spidey. The horrifyingly bad, interminably long clone saga. The unbelievably, excruciatingly stupid Maximum Carnage. And sprinkled in that, we have Sins Past, The Other, all that bs about Spiderman sorta being like a Spider Avatar, like a terrible version of Swamp Thing, a million THE RETURN OF THE GREEN GOBLIN! MORE EXTREME THAN EVER THIS TIME!!!!!!! stories, we had the twins of Gwen Stacey when it turns on she got it on with Norman Osborne, we had more "is MJ going to leave Peter?????" oh noooooooes! stories than anyone can count, we had more and more goblins, we had all those damn symbiotes- I mean one is fine, but did we really need Carnage and Toxin and so on? Oh, his parents came back to life once, in the most complex Chameleon plot I've ever read, but! Damn, they're LMDs. Peter Parker became a teacher at the least interesting, most lax attendance policy high school ever, and then he joined the Avengers.
I mean, I really don't get Marvel's policy of putting bad writers on their premier title. There's, of course, been many bright spots (Death of Kraven anyone? Of out of continuity titles like Reign. Or a bunch of other small arcs), but on the whole, Spidey, who's been one of my top three favorite characters since I was three, has had some terrible, terrible writing.
Dan Slott is writing a fun, action packed Spiderman. A Peter Parker I can actually consistently enjoy reading.
But, unlike most people on these forums, I'm not really all that nitpicky about continuity. I'd rather read a good story that breaks 'canon' then read a bad story that's so continuity spotless it gleams. I mean, I like to nitpick for fun, but it's really not worth letting it get in the way of enjoying a single comic book on its own merits.
Originally posted by tjcoady
Have you been reading the Dan Slott issues?Lets see. Since the late eighties, we've had the debacles of Spiderman that have been the original, Marvel identity crisis- when all those shitty characters like Ricochet replaced Spidey. The horrifyingly bad, interminably long clone saga. The unbelievably, excruciatingly stupid Maximum Carnage. And sprinkled in that, we have Sins Past, The Other, all that bs about Spiderman sorta being like a Spider Avatar, like a terrible version of Swamp Thing, a million THE RETURN OF THE GREEN GOBLIN! MORE EXTREME THAN EVER THIS TIME!!!!!!! stories, we had the twins of Gwen Stacey when it turns on she got it on with Norman Osborne, we had more "is MJ going to leave Peter?????" oh noooooooes! stories than anyone can count, we had more and more goblins, we had all those damn symbiotes- I mean one is fine, but did we really need Carnage and Toxin and so on? Oh, his parents came back to life once, in the most complex Chameleon plot I've ever read, but! Damn, they're LMDs. Peter Parker became a teacher at the least interesting, most lax attendance policy high school ever, and then he joined the Avengers.
I mean, I really don't get Marvel's policy of putting bad writers on their premier title. There's, of course, been many bright spots (Death of Kraven anyone? Of out of continuity titles like Reign. Or a bunch of other small arcs), but on the whole, Spidey, who's been one of my top three favorite characters since I was three, has had some terrible, terrible writing.
Dan Slott is writing a fun, action packed Spiderman. A Peter Parker I can actually consistently enjoy reading.
But, unlike most people on these forums, I'm not really all that nitpicky about continuity. I'd rather read a good story that breaks 'canon' then read a bad story that's so continuity spotless it gleams. I mean, I like to nitpick for fun, but it's really not worth letting it get in the way of enjoying a single comic book on its own merits.
The 80's gave us the very best of Spiderman stories. I can see Dan as a good writer...but I wouldn't categorize it with the others.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The 80's gave us the very best of Spiderman stories. I can see Dan as a good writer...but I wouldn't categorize it with the others.
No, no, you're right... we had some sweet Spidey stories in the eighties- first appearance of the black costume, the Kraven stories, a bunch of others. My point was that Slott is writing better Spidey stories than I've read since, like, the Sin Eater killed that cop (DeWolfe?) and he teamed up with Daredevil. Nineties and 00s Spidey was pretty bad, is my point.
It's just nice to see fun loving, action packed Spiderman, rather than, 'oh my life is so continuously terrible, I hate being Spiderman' Spiderman.
Really, the point I'm trying to get across is that OMD was unnecessary- there's really nothing going on right now that couldn't have happened if they just found some other way to get Spidey's identity a secret again- but BND has been really, really good. I would have liked it if we had just put in good writers rather than making us go through the whole Mephisto thing. It wasn't necessary- not even a necessary evil- but, we are getting good Spiderman stories, so if that's the price to pay, then it's not that big of a deal for me.
Originally posted by tjcoady
No, no, you're right... we had some sweet Spidey stories in the eighties- first appearance of the black costume, the Kraven stories, a bunch of others. My point was that Slott is writing better Spidey stories than I've read since, like, the Sin Eater killed that cop (DeWolfe?) and he teamed up with Daredevil. Nineties and 00s Spidey was pretty bad, is my point.It's just nice to see fun loving, action packed Spiderman, rather than, 'oh my life is so continuously terrible, I hate being Spiderman' Spiderman.
Really, the point I'm trying to get across is that OMD was unnecessary- there's really nothing going on right now that couldn't have happened if they just found some other way to get Spidey's identity a secret again- but BND has been really, really good. I would have liked it if we had just put in good writers rather than making us go through the whole Mephisto thing. It wasn't necessary- not even a necessary evil- but, we are getting good Spiderman stories, so if that's the price to pay, then it's not that big of a deal for me.
I respect your view...but what about me? and people like me...i have collected spiderman since the 70's, i dont want to read peter living with aunt may rehashing every old story with a spin on it and the stories that made a impact on me and made me feel closer to the character are thrown out the window for a quick buck(his unmasking was a desperate move), i wanted a progression to what was going on at the time...and not the stupid mistakes...like you said good writing...but what about good writing with a pushy editor.....do you think it was the writers who pushed to unmask spiderman?....or the writer who created one more day? did not the writer almost quit and asked for his name to be removed? but then after some thought(joe q) he decided not to....its these things that have made me quit spiderman totally....but hey if the stories are to your liking i am happy for you 🙂
Originally posted by Grimm22
If One More Day had retconned Sins Past, then MAYBE I would have picked up Brand New Day, but because Joe Q is a stubborn jackass who refuses to admit he is wrong, it wasn't.Also, Brand New Day has essentially killed Spider-Man in the Main MU. He's living in his own reality now.
Who's hanging out with the New Avengers, then?