TOAA vs Pre-recton Beyonder

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TOAA vs Pre-recton Beyonder

Who wins or is it a draw?

TOAA owned the beyonder when he drew him in the likeness of Tom jones

As I've understand it, it isn't so that The-One-Above-All isn't the actual writer, but a written representator of him.
And in a sense Beyonder's purpose was to illustrate the power the writer had over the story.

I'd go with a draw, for now.

that was true at the beginning, then it was sort of retconned to be a lesser being.

TOAA owned the beyonder when he retconned him into shit.

Thats why its Beyonder at the time of Jim Shooter so nobody could dare to recton him.

The One Above All is above "ALL"

Originally posted by SpiderGauntlet
TOAA owned the beyonder when he retconned him into shit.
😄

Beyonder was the living representation of Jim Shooter's unfathomable power, he kills TOAA. 🙂

Originally posted by Terryc250
The One Above All is above "[B]ALL" [/B]

So is this the case for the Celestial as well?

Originally posted by SpiderGauntlet
TOAA owned the beyonder when he retconned him into shit.
Beyonder was shit well before the retcon, buddy. uhuh

Originally posted by Astner
So is this the case for the Celestial as well?

No the celestial isnt supreme, TOAA is.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beyonder was shit well before the retcon, buddy. uhuh

I mean in terms of power uhuh

But obviously not one of Marvel's best.

Originally posted by Terryc250
No the celestial isnt supreme, TOAA is.

So the name doesn't really mean anything ...

As for TOAA being supreme doesn't indicate that he was supreme, but Beyonder was.

Originally posted by SpiderGauntlet
I mean in terms of power uhuh

But obviously not one of Marvel's best.


Yeah, since the Secret Wars was only one of the best selling comic books series ever. 🙄

The Writer (Jim Shooter) created him, the later writer (Steve Englehart) retconned him.

imo TOAA ftw.

Originally posted by Utrigita

The Writer (Jim Shooter) created him,
the later writer (Steve Englehart) retconned him.


Actually Ut,
it was Tom DeFalco (Editor-in chief after Shooter) that planned Beyonder's retcon,
and it was only DeFalco that had the editorial power to do it.

Writer's can't retcon anything without chief Editorial confirmation.

Whatever. Either one is a TOAA feat.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Whatever. Either one is a TOAA feat.

I disagree.

Toaa/god is a character in comics that has a set representative value,
classic Beyonder was detached from what Toaa/god represents,
but more importantly, from Toaa/god created/ruled over.

Remember, per Classic canon facts,
the Beyonder was Not created by Toaa/god,
the Beyonder simply always was (a god unto himself)
in his own separate Multiverse,
completely detached/separated from all of Marvel at the time (the Prime Multiverse)

The Beyonder was in the Beyond Realm
what Toaa/god is withIN the current and/or Post retcon Marvel Omniverse,
that being ... absolute Supreme being, author of all that is in his respective Reality,
as Toaa/god are/is, author of all that is in their respective Reality.

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So again,
this is why only Editorial staff (the Editor-in Chief in fact) was the only one able to retcon,
a Writer can Not overwrite what an Editor-in chief cements as fact.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beyonder was shit well before the retcon, buddy. uhuh
pissed