Wolverine/Storm VS Rogue/Magneto

Started by Doctor-Alvis5 pages

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Who said it would be non-linear?

I did. When I first described the attack months ago.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I did. When I first described the attack months ago.

It would be linear no matter what. 🙄

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It would be linear no matter what. 🙄

No it wouldn't. All bs dodging claims are defeated by the fact that this projectile will have its path adjusted to hit her, unlike all the dodging feats you like to bring up where the projectile fires in a straight line or arc with no course correction and are easily sidestepped.

Wow, I had heard stories of the massively ignorant Storm fanboys, but hadnt really seen many before this thread. Storm dropping a star on Magneto hmm?

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
No it wouldn't. All bs dodging claims are defeated by the fact that this projectile will have its path adjusted to hit her, unlike all the dodging feats you like to bring up where the projectile fires in a straight line or arc with no course correction and are easily sidestepped.

To adjust the direction in an arc = less the speed than a linear attack which= more than enough time to mount an assault or defense. If the projectile is to arc, then the it would begin in a linear motion inevitably--vertically , horizontally, diaganally etc. Then it would have to be halted from linear motion and made to arc.

Pressure dome happends instantly. Blocks it.

It's not like he can accelerate it instantly anyway, and it's not like it's coming at lightspeed . 🙄

Originally posted by 2damnloud
it's not like it's coming at lightspeed . 🙄

shame the same can't be said about your bullshit... ermm

Originally posted by Raoul
shame the same can't be said about your bullshit... ermm

😂 @ you being mad.

Deal.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
😂 @ you being mad.

Deal.

i'd dur you, but that would be an insult to the dur...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
To adjust the direction in an arc = less the speed than a linear attack which= more than enough time to mount an assault or defense. If the projectile is to arc, then the it would begin in a linear motion inevitably--vertically , horizontally, diaganally etc. Then it would have to be halted from linear motion and made to arc.

How much time are you thinking Storm would gain from Magneto's helmet steering a foot from it's original course to counter the dodge? Whatever amount it is, I assure you it won't be enough.

Also, look up the difference between dumb fire rockets and guided missiles then know that difference.

Pressure dome happends instantly. Blocks it.

Query: How?

It's not like he can accelerate it instantly anyway, and it's not like it's coming at lightspeed . 🙄

Never said he could, or it will, but it doesn't have to be.

team 2 win in a stomp

Originally posted by 2damnloud
😂 @ you being mad.

Deal.

👇

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
How much time are you thinking Storm would gain from Magneto's helmet steering a foot from it's original course to counter the dodge? Whatever amount it is, I assure you it won't be enough.

Also, look up the difference between dumb fire rockets and guided missiles then know that difference.

It can be as guided as it wants, it doesn't happen instantly.

First he has to find the metal. It will begin a linear course(which she could dodge anyway, but that's not your argument). He would have to focus some to speed it up, then halt the momentum and then focus a little more to get it to arc.

Storm can think and the air molecules are instantly compressed around her. It's deflected.

If he "guides" it he has to focus to halt the momentum again and bring it back at her again.

The cat and mouse could end with Storm dropping a tornado on him before he can react.

These precious seconds mean a lot to people who's powers work at the speed of thought.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It can be as guided as it wants, it doesn't happen instantly.

It doesn't need to be.

First he has to find the metal. It will begin a linear course(which she could dodge anyway, but that's not your argument). He would have to focus some to speed it up, then halt the momentum and then focus a little more to get it to arc.

Storm can think and the air molecules are instantly compressed around her. It's deflected.

If he "guides" it he has to focus to halt the momentum again and bring it back at her again.

The cat and mouse could end with Storm dropping a tornado on him before he can react.

These precious seconds mean a lot to people who's powers work at the speed of thought.


What the crap is this "halt the momentum" start/go nonsense? It's a magnetically propelled pieces of metal, not a cheap one button remote control car that needs to reverse in circles to change direction. You're completely over exaggerating the complexity of this maneuver.

Step 1: Fire metal at target
Step 2: Put your junk in that box
Step 3: Adjust trajectory while metal continues towards target
Step 4: PROFIT!

Metal is easy to come by when your suit is made of varying levels of it, kind of depends on the day and suit.

Again, why is it deflected? Why would the projectile simply be cast aside like falling debris instead of continuing towards the target?

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
It doesn't need to be.

What the crap is this "halt the momentum" start/go nonsense? It's a magnetically propelled pieces of metal, not a cheap one button remote control car that needs to reverse in circles to change direction. You're completely over exaggerating the complexity of this maneuver.

Step 1: Fire metal at target
Step 2: Put your junk in that box
Step 3: Adjust trajectory while metal continues towards target
Step 4: PROFIT!

Metal is easy to come by when your suit is made of varying levels of it, kind of depends on the day and suit.

Again, why is it deflected? Why would the projectile simply be cast aside like falling debris instead of continuing towards the target?

This is stupid.

You're not offering anything that disputes what I said. You're only basically saying "It's not as hard as you make it seem" without saying why.

Adjusting trajectory causes it to lose momentum.

You argument was that any object moving in a non-linear direction would do the trick.

My argument was that any extra "adjusting" takes time that Magneto doesnt have, and it takes away from the speed or the object, whether magneticall propelled or not.

The projectile would be cast aside because......it's a projectile 😂

Why wouldn't it be.

If it can "hit" her it can "hit" a wall of compressed air.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You're not offering anything that disputes what I said. You're only basically saying "It's not as hard as you make it seem" without saying why.

On the contrary, you're not offering anything that disputes what I said.

Adjusting trajectory causes it to lose momentum.

I agree. Key differences here. Lose momentum.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
halt the momentum

Lose momentum?
halt the momentum again

It sounds as if you suggest he'd have to stop completely to change its direction, which is ridiculous.

You argument was that any object moving in a non-linear direction would do the trick.

It is not.

My argument was that any extra "adjusting" takes time that Magneto doesnt have, and it takes away from the speed or the object, whether magneticall propelled or not.

Changing course a foot, at most, in mid flight isn't going to cost nearly enough time to leave an opening.

The projectile would be cast aside because......it's a projectile 😂

Why wouldn't it be.

If it can "hit" her it can "hit" a wall of compressed air.


Why would it be cast aside? There will be constant force pushing it at Storm. The shot isn't going to skip off it then never seen again. There's no reason why it wouldn't be able to make it through her pressure dome, if she can create it in time.