Originally posted by skywalker833
In cestus deception, they say a droideka can defeat a jedi. Against ten, vader doesnt stand a chance.
who is the speaker in this 'Cestus deception" of which you speak?
and just because you can beat someone doesnt mean you will
for example. a clone can kill a jedi, but does that mean it will always happen? no
Originally posted by Man of Christ
the amount of blasters wont matter against a force adept like vader who spent most of his jedi carreer fighting droids.using logic count dooku put gg back together using duranium which is stronger than bronzium
per this article
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Duraniumin response to point 3 of your presentation itslike this:
he crushes some, and if by a fluke one has time to unroll it's bots will be reflected by his hand then he crushes it.
And, the thread doesn't even specify whether the Droidekas start rolled up our out with blasters pointing at vader or anything.
Originally posted by darthsith19Or he could bend the bolts away as he did in empire betrayal when his target practice storm troopers were firing at him with fully automatic laser rifles.
1. That doesn't prove that he can block all the bolts at once. there is a limit to everybody.
I think he can beat 4 or 5 at most but 10 seems a little too much, he may or may not win this and it depends on the circumstances and outcome of the battle.
Well… how good are Vader’s deflecting skills? If I remember correctly the Droideka’s rate of fire isn’t really all that fast.. It also depends on location.
My final opinion is this: if Vader doesn’t start off surrounded by them then he can win . He uses a one handed variant of Djem/So anyway.. so if he’s not surrounded he can deflect the blaster bolts with one hand and crush the droids one by one with the other. Every time he crushes a droid things will get progressively easier because with every droid destroyed that’s less fire that he has to deflect. So he can win this way. Plus if there’s cover available he can use cover.
If he starts off surrounded by them in a circle, then he’s screwed. He can’t deflect fire coming from every direction.
But then there’s another factor that occurred to me. In the clone wars cartoon Yoda lifted at least 50 droidekas into the air then destroyed them all. Vader may not be on Yoda’s level, but his TK is pretty good. Would it be possible for Vader to simply lift them all into the air? Once in that state Droidekas are pretty vulnerable because they’re ability to aim is not very flexible. From that vantage point Vader can destroy them all.
Well, my problems with that is the simple act of TK levitation is not instantaneous when anyone used it. If he generated a sort of TK shockwave out in a complete circle powerful enough to crush the droids, it may work. Other than that though, it just buys him time. Droidekas can fire 240 rounds per minute, times ten and that's a lot of blaster bolts to have to deflect. Likewise, when Anakin and Obi-Wan were surrounded by droidekas, they either opted to surrender or run like hell.
Originally posted by Janus MariusHonestly janus vader did suspended 10 wild animals in the air instantly and broke their necks all at once when they pounced on him. I can't remember which is the exact source but i am positive its in one of the empire comics.
Well, my problems with that is the simple act of TK levitation is not instantaneous when anyone used it. If he generated a sort of TK shockwave out in a complete circle powerful enough to crush the droids, it may work.
Originally posted by Janus MariusJudging it was from a comic scan it looked like it was, if the creatures remained on him any longer they would have seriously injured or even killed him.
Instantly? No form of TK in the entire series is 'instant", though some forms are quick. In any case, it's dicey. If he insta-TKs the droidekas, there's a possibility they could gun him anyways. They fire very fast.
But yea i agree with you i think quickly should be the correct term.
Anyways it would be very difficult for him to face 10 destroyer droids when all of them are firing at him at the same time, so i think for him to win it would depend on the situation and circumstances.
Originally posted by skywalker833
who is the speaker in this 'Cestus deception" of which you speak?The speaker is obi1's mind. When they discovered the jedi killer droid. He was wtching kit fight the killer, and he was thinking that because the killer seemed better.
Originally posted by darthsith19
That's a Jedi Killer Droid, though, and the droids in this thread are Droidekas / Destroyer Droids. They are different from Jedi Killer Droids.
he's saying that Obi-Wan was thinking the Jedi killer droids were better than the droidekas, and that worried him, because he already knew that droidekas could kill Jedi.