Anakin FP vs. Luke FP

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Darth Sexy Restricted

Originally posted by Janus Marius
NEC shouldn't be taken as gospel though, as the author is clearly in-universe and fallible. While I'm not saying Anakin couldn't have the highest potential ever (As that was certainly GL's desire, but most EU characters surpass Anakin many times over), it just seems incorrect to keep assuming he's the best in light of people like DE Sidious, Luke, Nihilus, etc.

Well don't forget Janus, at his FP Anakin would have been twice as powerful as Sidious.

Janus Marius Plo Koon Rulez!

As of RotS, apparently. Sidious admits in the moment that Vader will surpass him, but as of 24 years old, Anakin's abilities were not on-par with other high-end Force users.

Darth Sexy Restricted

Yea I know.. I thought we were discussing the full potential Anakin though. At any rate, this thread is pointless..

psi-aura Psychic Diamond

Quiet, ye of little faith. one could say the same for every VS thread on the internet.
Am i the only one who can grasp that we're not talking about what actually happened we're talking about if it happened?
Let me make this simpler for you to understand: imagine anakin got none of his injuries on mustafar and reached his full potential, but things from ROTS to ROTJ turned out the way they did anyway. Yoda, knowing Anakins power, trained luke to the height of his potential, and then Luke and Anakin fight on Death Star II.
Now, who would win that battle?

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

You realize that this thing has been dead for two years?

Necro much?

mattatom UNSC's finest.

But Yes, Anakin Wins since technically Luke should have half the potential Anakin did.

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

Originally posted by mattatom
But Yes, Anakin Wins since technically Luke should have half the potential Anakin did.

elaborate on why your rudimentary (mis)understanding of basic mendellian heredity should apply in this situation

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Two "L"s Red? Really?

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Two "L"s Red? Really?

Yes. Mendell was the Star Wars analogue to our very own Mendel. We wouldn't want to break the rules by going out-of-universe!

psi-aura Psychic Diamond

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
You realize that this thing has been dead for two years?

Necro much?

That's exactly why i had to comment, Darling.

psi-aura Psychic Diamond
Originally posted by Red Nemesis
elaborate on why your rudimentary (mis)understanding of basic mendellian heredity should apply in this situation

Anakin was the son of the force. Luke was just the grandson. And i personally don't believe in the Darth Plaugeis was the father theory, so don't try that.

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

Originally posted by psi-aura
Anakin was the son of the force. Luke was just the grandson. And i personally don't believe in the Darth Plaugeis was the father theory, so don't try that.

tHESE ARE EITHER FACTS OR OPINIONS POSING AS FACTS. eVEN IF WE ACCEPT THEM AS TRUE FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT, YOU'VE YET TO ELABORATE ON WHY lUKE'S RELATION TO aNAKIN (BEING HIS SON AND ALL) SHOULD YIELD A MIDICHLORIAN COUNT HALF AS CONCENTRATED AS aNAKIN'S. sAD AS IT IS FOR US LAZY DEBATORS, FACTS RARELY SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. yOU'VE GOT TO EXPLAIN THE CONNECTION (or "warrant"😉 BETWEEN YOUR FACTS AND YOUR CLAIM.

i AM AWARE THAT YOU DID NOT MAKE THE CLAIM, BUT BY RESPONDING IN THE WAY THAT YOU DID IT APPEARS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEFEND IT. i'M INTERESTED IN THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS SPECULATIVE IDEA THAT lUKE SHOULD HAVE 1/2 OF aNAKIN"S POTENTIAL.

psi-aura Psychic Diamond

You asked the thinking behind this:

Originally posted by mattatom
But Yes, Anakin Wins since technically Luke should have half the potential Anakin did.

so i gave it to you. Anyways, i think that anakin would win, if only because his technique seemed more refined. yes, i know that we're talking full potential here, but still, he's the chosen one and showed promise before his training: Luke was totally new to it in ANH and didn't even seem to have the "see things before they happen" trait.
why do you talk in capitals, by the way? is it accidental or do you have something against the lowercase alphabet?

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

Originally posted by psi-aura
You asked the thinking behind this:

so i gave it to you.


Actually, I was asking for an explanation of why being the grandson of the Force should grant one a connection half as strong as the son of the Force. What's the mechanism there?

Anyways, i think that anakin would win, if only because his technique seemed more refined. yes, i know that we're talking full potential here, but still, he's the chosen one and showed promise before his training: Luke was totally new to it in ANH and didn't even seem to have the "see things before they happen" trait.

This is a really good point, and one that (were I arguing against your position) I would have trouble countering. good show.


why do you talk in capitals, by the way? is it accidental or do you have something against the lowercase alphabet?

I don't have accidents.

psi-aura Psychic Diamond

so far. 😈
so you do have something against the lowercase alphabet.

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

I should clarify: the point about young Anakin's abilities as opposed to young Luke's abilities is a good one. The idea that Anakin is more polished than adult Luke (circa Dark Empire) is laughable.

Gideon Restricted

Italicize Dark Empire or suffer the consequences....

Red Nemesis The Blind Critic

I will not.

Gideon Restricted

You will.

psi-aura Psychic Diamond

My personal beliefs:
1. On a internet thread, you can write dark empire the hell you want.
2. I couldn't care less about what goes on in the EU.
3. Never listen to anyone with a general grievious sig.