The Magical Mystery Tourney Odds Thread

Started by DigiMark00710 pages

Blah, I promised a full analysis, but I'm dealing with my tourney right now.

So...

"Charlotte wins via Authority stompage"

K. Done.

bottom of the page sucks. 😐

Originally posted by Blair Wind
With the exception of one or two characters left to pick, we have the final lineups here 🙂

[B]Blair

Single Pick1- Wundarr the Aquarian
Amalgam1- Madison Jeffries (with Box)/Professor Ivo
Amalgam2- Element Lad/Brainiac5
Single Pick2-Light Ray
Single Pick3- Thom Kallor
Amalgam Pick3- Spartan w/Void/Persuader

Goober

Single Pick1- Absorbing Man
Amalgam1-He-Man/Skeletor
Amalgam2-Monica Rambeau (Photon)/Warrior
Single Pick2-Matrix Supergirl
Single Pick3- Access
Amalgam Pick3- Rune/Phyla-Vell

Smurph

Single Pick1- Black Bolt
Amalgam1- Reed Richards/Sage
Amalgam2-Firestorm (Ronnie)/Meggan
Single Pick2-Animal Man
Single Pick3- Ray
Amalgam Pick3- Sprite/Jor-el

Charlotte

Single Pick1- ???
Amalgam1- Engineer II/Brainiac8
Amalgam2-Yellowjacket/Shift
Single Pick2-Jack Hawksmoor
Single Pick3- Apollo
Amalgam Pick3- Nate Grey/Mantis

Bran

Single Pick1- Martian Manhunter
Amalgam1- Northstar/Juggernaut
Amalgam2-Cable/Nova
Single Pick2-Apocalypse
Single Pick3- James Hudson (Cyborg)
Amalgam Pick3- Drax/w gem/Iron Fist

Laminator X

Single Pick1- Loki
Amalgam1- Spider-Man (circa Civil War)/Atlas
Amalgam2-Cassandra Nova/Cloak
Single Pick2-Alex Luthor Jr
Single Pick3- Warlock (Technarch)
Amalgam Pick3- Madrox/Phastos

Trick

Single Pick1- Dr. Arthur Light
Amalgam1- Ikaris/ Atom (Ray Palmer)
Amalagam2-Metamorpho/Mar-vell
Single Pick2-Metron
Single Pick3- Darkness
Amalgam Pick3- Exodus/Machine Man

Devil lance

Single Pick1- Maxima
Amalgam1- Ronan the accuser/Super-skrull
Amalgam2-Captain Comet (current)/Krypto
Single Pick2-Magneto
Single Pick3- Death Metal
Amalgam Pick3- Shaman/Hyperion

Akuki

Single Pick1- Demon Witchfire
Amalgam1- Nova (Frankie Raye)/Supergirl
Amalgam2-Dr. Doom/Ultimate Superskrull
Single Pick2-Spawn (1st Age)
Single Pick3- Prodigy
Amalgam Pick3- Moondragon w/gem/Gold Key Solar

Pr1983

Single Pick1- Firestorm (current)
Amalgam1- Red Tornado (JLA #12)/Steven Lang (Phalanx Infected)
Amalgam2-Wonderwoman/Manchester Black
Single Pick2-Makkari
Single Pick3- Geo-Force
Amalgam Pick3- Mr. Sinister/Dr. Light

Martian

Single Pick1- Nightshade
Amalgam1- Mr Terrific 2/Sand
Amalagam2-Forerunner/Supernova
Single Pick2- Malefic
Single Pick3- Gentleman Ghost
Amalgam Pick3- ???

Leo

Single Pick1- Forge
Amalgam1- Sersi/Ult. Reed
Amalagam2- Savitar/Vulcan
Single Pick2- Wiz Kid
Single Pick3- Black Box
Amalgam Pick3- Rachel Summers/Cerebro Prime [/B]

damn. there are some STRONG f****** teams in this thing. 😐

anyone wanna try and take a shot at seeding them?

anyone have thoughts on some of the 'cool' picks? personally, i like bw's persuader and kallor thom. goob's choice of rune was cool. i actually considered him for a bit. sage was a GREAT pick imo. bastard. indigo and cloak are cool picks as are machine man and prodigy, imo.

and of course my own are all VERY cool. 😉

Originally posted by leonidas
damn. there are some STRONG f****** teams in this thing. 😐

anyone wanna try and take a shot at seeding them?

I will. Just not now. Maybe tonight, once I finish skewering debating with goob.

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Iron Fist was a magnificent pick... 😖hifty:

K then.

Trends: Speedsters; Tech-oriented prep possibilities

Tourney: Certifiably insane. 9 people? Partners?!?! Random prep times? Fun stuff, but hard to make predictions with such variables. I can't decide how the partnering system will help/hurt certain people more than others, so there's a lot that can't be told just from rosters.

But, despite that, my tentative team assessments (and "seeds" at the bottom):

Blair

Single Pick1- Wundarr the Aquarian
Amalgam1- Madison Jeffries (with Box)/Professor Ivo
Amalgam2- Element Lad/Brainiac5
Single Pick2-Light Ray
Single Pick3- Thom Kallor
Amalgam Pick3- Spartan w/Void/Persuader

Wundarr has raised eyebrows, and he certainly can match most people in terms of tech (Ivo/Jeffries is obvious, for example, but potentially incredibly effective). I feel like Blair drafted well, but didn't do more than some others did in a lot of areas, and might lack in raw power. So it's not a knock on him, but rather a compliment to the field, to say that I don't see him as an outright favorite like he normally is. Still, underestimating Blair is foolish, at best, and there are doubtless plans here that no one but Blair has thought of yet.

Goober

Single Pick1- Absorbing Man
Amalgam1-He-Man/Skeletor
Amalgam2-Monica Rambeau (Photon)/Warrior
Single Pick2-Matrix Supergirl
Single Pick3- Access
Amalgam Pick3- Rune/Phyla-Vell

There's a well-known maxim that I'll probably badly paraphrase here: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. This applies to any ambitious tourney prep, but being privy to goober's ideas this tourney, I can say that some extraordinarily creative things will happen in his matches. He has, however, complimented it with a fair amount of raw power (He-Man/Skeletor isn't just a fanboy crush, and Creel is always dangerous when used effectively). I'm not ready to declare him the favorite, and there's a few holes in his team such as speed, but he's among the strongest teams imo.

Smurph

Single Pick1- Black Bolt
Amalgam1- Reed Richards/Sage
Amalgam2-Firestorm (Ronnie)/Meggan
Single Pick2-Animal Man
Single Pick3- Ray
Amalgam Pick3- Sprite/Jor-el

Might be the best picks top to bottom in the tourney. The number of possibilities open to Animal Man is staggering, and with such combos as Firestorm and Reed, he'll be able to counter a lot of opposing tech.

Charlotte

Single Pick1- ???
Amalgam1- Engineer II/Brainiac8
Amalgam2-Yellowjacket/Shift
Single Pick2-Jack Hawksmoor
Single Pick3- Apollo
Amalgam Pick3- Nate Grey/Mantis

Authority! I'll be honest, even with my Authority knowledge I have no idea where Charlotte is headed here. If she can port a city to Jack or something, this team is in business. A sentient attacking city is enough to give entire teams trouble, even in this tourney. Also, can Shift fly? Even if she can't, others can. Charlotte might have taken a page from past tourneys and worked it to her advantage. Can't give her high marks until I see the plan though. Apollo is equal to most bricks at this level if complimented properly, but could be a liability.

Bran

Single Pick1- Martian Manhunter
Amalgam1- Northstar/Juggernaut
Amalgam2-Cable/Nova
Single Pick2-Apocalypse
Single Pick3- James Hudson (Cyborg)
Amalgam Pick3- Drax/w gem/Iron Fist

"Team Jobber" ( 😛 ). MM, Poccy, and Juggs (who jobs in tourneys). Seriously though, this team rivals Smurph in terms of raw power (sans prep). Northstar/Juggs is...scary. The gem could also end up being something that swings matches in Bran's favor.

Laminator X

Single Pick1- Loki
Amalgam1- Spider-Man (circa Civil War)/Atlas
Amalgam2-Cassandra Nova/Cloak
Single Pick2-Alex Luthor Jr
Single Pick3- Warlock (Technarch)
Amalgam Pick3- Madrox/Phastos

Lacking overt power, Lam's gonna need his plans to come together to have a shot. Alex Luthor is one of those picks where no one really argues, but everyone thinks "crap...what did he get drafted for?" To me, it seems like Lam will either win a bunch or go winless.

Trick

Single Pick1- Dr. Arthur Light
Amalgam1- Ikaris/ Atom (Ray Palmer)
Amalagam2-Metamorpho/Mar-vell
Single Pick2-Metron
Single Pick3- Darkness
Amalgam Pick3- Exodus/Machine Man

It's Trick, so it's hard to say. I like Darkness, Ray, etc. but can't endorse a Trcikster-team with any certainty until he displays the ability to compete properly.

Devil lance

Single Pick1- Maxima
Amalgam1- Ronan the accuser/Super-skrull
Amalgam2-Captain Comet (current)/Krypto
Single Pick2-Magneto
Single Pick3- Death Metal
Amalgam Pick3- Shaman/Hyperion

Krypto might be my favorite pick all tourney, Authority included. Death Metal is a stud. Problem here is that DL definitely has a cap on his power, unless there's something I'm not seeing in the meshes. He'll be solid, but anyone who convinces the judges that their crazy prep-stuff will work will be beyond him.

Akuki

Single Pick1- Demon Witchfire
Amalgam1- Nova (Frankie Raye)/Supergirl
Amalgam2-Dr. Doom/Ultimate Superskrull
Single Pick2-Spawn (1st Age)
Single Pick3- Prodigy
Amalgam Pick3- Moondragon w/gem/Gold Key Solar

I really want to see Doom used properly. Spawn is amorphic in any Age. I'll make Akuki my "wildcard" distinction, because I don't know anything for certain but I feel like there's a lot of different possibilities here.

Pr1983

Single Pick1- Firestorm (current)
Amalgam1- Red Tornado (JLA #12)/Steven Lang (Phalanx Infected)
Amalgam2-Wonderwoman/Manchester Black
Single Pick2-Makkari
Single Pick3- Geo-Force
Amalgam Pick3- Mr. Sinister/Dr. Light

"Forces of Nature" ...some team had that in a past tourney, but it applies here too. Fire(storm), Earth (Geo), Wind (Tornado), Light. If he had drafted Thing for Heart he could've summoned Cpt. Planet and owned everyone. But alas. Much like DL, solid as hell but I feel like there's a lower potential cap on this team. Maybe pr can prove me wrong.

Martian

Single Pick1- Nightshade
Amalgam1- Mr Terrific 2/Sand
Amalagam2-Forerunner/Supernova
Single Pick2- Malefic
Single Pick3- Gentleman Ghost
Amalgam Pick3- Cpt. Marvel/Enchantress

Billy's likely getting banned, but meh. Not sure what's going on here, and I can't say I'd be too intimidated by this team. Not terrible (no one did poorly in drafts, imo, so I hesitate to talk negatively) but at the lower end imo.

Leo

Single Pick1- Forge
Amalgam1- Sersi/Ult. Reed
Amalagam2- Savitar/Vulcan
Single Pick2- Wiz Kid
Single Pick3- Black Box
Amalgam Pick3- Rachel Summers/Cerebro Prime [/B][/QUOTE]

Forge. Reed. Black Box. Cerebro. Wiz Kid. Leo's went for tech overload, and drafted the speed and matter manip to help him with it. Insane potential, but it may come down to how much stuff leo can dig up in research, and whether he can find ways to counter other teams. I'm guessing he can, for the most part, since I know how the man operates. But only time will tell.

Seeds:
...keep in mind, these are unofficial, and I wish everyone good luck. A LOT will change once battles start.
1-Smurph
2-Goober
3-Leo
4-Akuki
5-Blair
6-Lam
7-Bran
8-DL
9-Pr
10-Charlotte
11-MM
12-Trick

Shift is he and he can fly...and not only fly, but some interesting stuff to add to that😉 And amalgamated with Pym's scientific mind...the amouth of possibilities are endless. But I'll PM you some of my grand plans so as not to spoil them to my opponents.

My single repick one was Graviton, darling.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=479188&pagenumber=4

The analyses have been fun to read. However, none of them seem to have taken into account how teams might work together.

So lets hear from you 😛

Also, Digi, if you want I can let you in on my secrets. Just ask 🙂

Originally posted by Blair Wind
So lets hear from you 😛

Well lets see, for single team choosing three of it's six characters with no more than two amalgams fielded at once you've got 18 possible combinations. For a two player team, you've got 18^2 possabilities right there, +far more when you consider the possibility of inter-player amalgamations.

I think the winners will be the players who do the best job of choosing their characters for each match in a mutually complimentary fashion, while guessing well whom their opponents will be fielding.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
So lets hear from you 😛

Also, Digi, if you want I can let you in on my secrets. Just ask 🙂

I know a couple already from our PMs, so I'll content myself with waiting like the rest of the field for the other stuff.

😉

Tip of the iceberg...

....very tip 😉

Favorite Amalgams- Ronan/Super Skrull, Northstar/ Juggernaut

Originally posted by DigiMark007

[B]Pr1983

Single Pick1- Firestorm (current)
Amalgam1- Red Tornado (JLA #12)/Steven Lang (Phalanx Infected)
Amalgam2-Wonderwoman/Manchester Black
Single Pick2-Makkari
Single Pick3- Geo-Force
Amalgam Pick3- Mr. Sinister/Dr. Light

"Forces of Nature" ...some team had that in a past tourney, but it applies here too. Fire(storm), Earth (Geo), Wind (Tornado), Light. If he had drafted Thing for Heart he could've summoned Cpt. Planet and owned everyone. But alas. Much like DL, solid as hell but I feel like there's a lower potential cap on this team. Maybe pr can prove me wrong.[/B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXM9bj-WPU

if we're going by the heart thing, red tornado would suffice easily...

Switching Ray and Sprite on my team.

If Leo doesn't post an updated version, I will later.... 😛

Originally posted by Zeitgeist
Switching Ray and Sprite on my team.

If Leo doesn't post an updated version, I will later.... 😛

hey mister, i'm not your secretary! 😠

proceding to update the list . . . grumblegrumble . . .

Just to let everyone know... I'm reverting my pick back to Bart Allen (Pre IC/Upgrade) from Makkari...

if people want to ban him, then they'll need to vote...

Originally posted by Raoul
Just to let everyone know... I'm reverting my pick back to Bart Allen (Pre IC/Upgrade) from Makkari...

No. I wont allow it.