Originally posted by Grammaton
No your right. Owning the Ultimates including Ultimate Thor was by no means impressive.
Let's go over the Ultimates.
Giant Man, Captain America, Thor, Iron man and the Wasp.
He only owned Thor, Captain America and Giant Man out of these. Captain America is a peak human, Giant man is roughly a class 40 and Ultimate Thor isn't particularly impressive.
Iron Man stopped him and The Wasp knocked him out.
Veeeery impressive...
And I'm sure you're not thinking of the fact that fighting weaklings like Cap and Giant man first, let's him build up his anger.
Originally posted by llagrok
Let's go over the Ultimates.Giant Man, Captain America, Thor, Iron man and the Wasp.
He only owned Thor, Captain America and Giant Man out of these. Captain America is a peak human, Giant man is roughly a class 40 and Ultimate Thor isn't particularly impressive.
Iron Man stopped him and The Wasp knocked him out.
Veeeery impressive...
And I'm sure you're not thinking of the fact that fighting weaklings like Cap and Giant man first, let's him build up his anger.
Iron Man did not stop him - only slowed him down temporarily - and considering Ult Thor was able to take on nearly all the "captains" and a few Ultimates DOES make Ult Hulk beating them all the more impressive - pls show me where Ult Namor has done this - The Wasp didn't "knock" the Hulk out - it was a cheap shot and you know it. 😮💨
Originally posted by llagrok
Let's go over the Ultimates.Giant Man, Captain America, Thor, Iron man and the Wasp.
He only owned Thor, Captain America and Giant Man out of these. Captain America is a peak human, Giant man is roughly a class 40 and Ultimate Thor isn't particularly impressive.
Iron Man stopped him and The Wasp knocked him out.
Veeeery impressive...
And I'm sure you're not thinking of the fact that fighting weaklings like
Cap and Giant man first, let's him build up his anger.
Yes Giant man at nearly 60 feet tall and nearly 100tons in weight was a bit of a weakling. And hulk showed it by utterly manhandling him and nearly killing him. He had to be rescued by iron man
Ultimate Cap is way above peak human. The ultimate super soldier serum turns you into a meta. At least class 10, but probably higher (he also took down Giant man single handedly) Plus Ult Cap dropped a 50 ton tank on hulk from several hundred feet. Ultimate Thor virtually single handedly destroyed an entire skrull fleet of star ships. Ripped the midgard serpent to shreds. Overcame teams of metas. Ult. Iron man was powerful enough to carry a several thousand ton starship safely out of range of a populated area. Did you even read the ult imates?
Originally posted by Grammaton
Iron Man did not stop him - only slowed him down temporarily - and considering Ult Thor was able to take on nearly all the "captains" and a few Ultimates DOES make Ult Hulk beating them all the more impressive - pls show me where Ult Namor has done this - The Wasp didn't "knock" the Hulk out - it was a cheap shot and you know it. 😮💨
wasps hit was directly to the brain after she had crawled down his earhole - definitely cheap shot
Originally posted by severance
Yes Giant man at nearly 60 feet tall and nearly 100tons in weight was a bit of a weakling. And hulk showed it by utterly manhandling him and nearly killing him. He had to be rescued by iron man
Ultimate Cap is way above peak human. The ultimate super soldier serum turns you into a meta. At least class 10, but probably higher (he also took down Giant man single handedly) Plus Ult Cap dropped a 50 ton tank on hulk from several hundred feet. Ultimate Thor virtually single handedly destroyed an entire skrull fleet of star ships. Ripped the midgard serpent to shreds. Overcame teams of metas. Ult. Iron man was powerful enough to carry a several thousand ton starship safely out of range of a populated area. Did you even read the ult imates?
This guy is hilarious.
- Giant man is a damn weakling compared to any class 100 in Marvel. WEAK, WEAK, WEAK. You noticed how easily Captain America knocked him out? Or how easily the ones who were even stronger than him were killed by flying class 10s?
- Ultimate Cap is above peak human, I agree. Even though it has yet to be stated on panel, he's got the feats to back it up. He's still far below the Hulk, which means that it will only serve as a buff.
- Ultimate Thor has some high feats and some low feats. In Ultimates 1, his feats were pretty low. Getting beaten by Ultimate Colossus and the Hulk. Later on, his feats were upped.
- Ultimates Iron man only used sonic against the Hulk, and stopped him.
- In Ultimate Human, Iron man easily knocked out the Hulk by sending a shock straight into his brain. Knocked the Hulk RIGHT OUT.
- So please, don't try to insult me. The fact that Thor jobbed to the Ultimate Hulk doesn't really mean that 616 Namor loses to him.
Basically, you're missing the point here. The Hulk won't be able to build up his strength by fighting people who are weaker than him (bar Thor), but he'll face off against a flying class 100 with electric powers, super speed, etc.
Originally posted by llagrok
This guy is hilarious.- Giant man is a damn weakling compared to any class 100 in Marvel. WEAK, WEAK, WEAK. You noticed how easily Captain America knocked him out? Or how easily the ones who were even stronger than him were killed by flying class 10s?
- Ultimate Cap is above peak human, I agree. Even though it has yet to be stated on panel, he's got the feats to back it up. He's still far below the Hulk, which means that it will only serve as a buff.
- Ultimate Thor has some high feats and some low feats. In Ultimates 1, his feats were pretty low. Getting beaten by Ultimate Colossus and the Hulk. Later on, his feats were upped.
- Ultimates Iron man only used sonic against the Hulk, and stopped him.
- In Ultimate Human, Iron man easily knocked out the Hulk by sending a shock straight into his brain. Knocked the Hulk RIGHT OUT.
- So please, don't try to insult me. The fact that Thor jobbed to the Ultimate Hulk doesn't really mean that 616 Namor loses to him.
Basically, you're missing the point here. The Hulk won't be able to build up his strength by fighting people who are weaker than him (bar Thor), but he'll face off against a flying class 100 with electric powers, super speed, etc.
How much time Hulk needs to build up strength has never been established. Sometimes his power goes up instantaneously, sometimes it takes hours. Electricity is not going to take down the hulk every time when he can survive a nuke. Being taken down by electricity is a low showing. All characters have low showings 616 hulk has been taken out by gas, one shotted by guys like Wrecker (shared power), struggled to beat a bunch of crocs and snakes. I will admit that namor is a lot tougher than his bio makes out but he is not as tough as ult or 616 hulk and he cannot increase power exponentially. So as a concession I would say this is a 6/10 win for ult hulk