Originally posted by Jedireaperthat is true nobody cares bout vassik now that thrawns there
Its the universal enemy, we are all fighting it though I think it was better with just a few factions battling for control of the galaxy... eg. #Sith/*Empire vs #Jedi/*Mandolorians... I'm also taking Thrawn off of my Character list because he isby far overshadowing my Grand Admiral...
What bother me most isnt the fleet. It's the leader. You realise he is powerful enough to wipe out an entire army with utter ease, right? The only thing that keeps his character from wiping everything dry on life is the fact that there is a "No God-Mode" rule and a possible touch of fair play desire involved. Even if he would hold back majorly, he could defeat anyone with utter ease. I just do not think there is any fun having such a character involved. He could kill ALL characters combined with a single gesture if he wanted to.
I will stay because you ask me to do so, but do not expect me to interact with that character at all. In matter of fact, I will do all there is in Banis power to avoid ever even getting close to that leader, or his 2nd in command. Not because Banis would be defeated (which she would be, like any other character in the RP and the history of SW), but because I do not approve even the slightest.
Originally posted by Obsidian Furyi never said he could destroy the galaxy furthermore why would he, his character prevents him from destroying everyone not a rule, he believes he is destined to take humanity (along with the other species) along a better path of living he hasnt been corrupted by evil, he's been corrupted by an idea the we can all live peacefully (in basics that's what he thinks) however by trying to achieve this he's done and seen things that would twist anybody into a pure evil entity, but he doesn't know that he's corupted and that his morals are screwed he's just been waiting for the exact right moment to strike.
What bother me most isnt the fleet. It's the leader. You realise he is powerful enough to wipe out an entire army with utter ease, right? The only thing that keeps his character from wiping everything dry on life is the fact that there is a "No God-Mode" rule and a possible touch of fair play desire involved. Even if he would hold back [b]majorly, he could defeat anyone with utter ease. I just do not think there is any fun having such a character involved. He could kill ALL characters combined with a single gesture if he wanted to.I will stay because you ask me to do so, but do not expect me to interact with that character at all. In matter of fact, I will do all there is in Banis power to avoid ever even getting close to that leader, or his 2nd in command. Not because Banis would be defeated (which she would be, like any other character in the RP and the history of SW), but because I do not approve even the slightest. [/B]
as for the fleet if you listenned most of them are over 5,000 years old and have very few powerful weapons, the only powerful oldies are the original 3 ships which have been heavily upgraded to basically only have the same body.
and as for him shaming the sith, all my characters hate the sith as he does, i mean why not, all the sith ever wanted to do was destroy everything (or just the jedi), conguer the galaxy or even just be the leader of themselves, they never truly had an ultimate goal (xept for palpatine) and would most often just destroy themselves, they are pretty much the reason they lost everytime, sure they had strength, but it was all wasted when they started fighting eachother. he also feels that they are imposters of him and his men, so he despises them even more. dont make the fact that you love the sith and my character hates them the reason you hate his existence.
Originally posted by Obsidian Furyand how do you know every single person in SW could defeat the 2nd, you've never once seen what she could do, all you've seen is her talking, you have nothing to base your theory off of other than a charting system that you yourself says doesn't work. all you have that you can base your theory off of is that you say your character can beat mine which is god-modding.
What bother me most isnt the fleet. It's the leader. You realise he is powerful enough to wipe out an entire army with utter ease, right? The only thing that keeps his character from wiping everything dry on life is the fact that there is a "No God-Mode" rule and a possible touch of fair play desire involved. Even if he would hold back [b]majorly, he could defeat anyone with utter ease. I just do not think there is any fun having such a character involved. He could kill ALL characters combined with a single gesture if he wanted to.I will stay because you ask me to do so, but do not expect me to interact with that character at all. In matter of fact, I will do all there is in Banis power to avoid ever even getting close to that leader, or his 2nd in command. Not because Banis would be defeated (which she would be, like any other character in the RP and the history of SW), but because I do not approve even the slightest. [/B]
Originally posted by The big EH
and how do you know every single person in SW could defeat the 2nd, you've never once seen what she could do, all you've seen is her talking, you have nothing to base your theory off of other than a charting system that you yourself says doesn't work. all you have that you can base your theory off of is that you say your character can beat mine which is god-modding.
You didn't read it carefully, did you? If I didnt know better, I'd think you want to pick a fight. Because what you defended yourself against was not even remotelly what I said.
Originally posted by The big EH
i never said he could destroy the galaxy furthermore why would he, his character prevents him from destroying everyone not a rule, he believes he is destined to take humanity (along with the other species) along a better path of living he hasnt been corrupted by evil, he's been corrupted by an idea the we can all live peacefully (in basics that's what he thinks) however by trying to achieve this he's done and seen things that would twist anybody into a pure evil entity, but he doesn't know that he's corupted and that his morals are screwed he's just been waiting for the exact right moment to strike.as for the fleet if you listenned most of them are over 5,000 years old and have very few powerful weapons, the only powerful oldies are the original 3 ships which have been heavily upgraded to basically only have the same body.
and as for him shaming the sith, all my characters hate the sith as he does, i mean why not, all the sith ever wanted to do was destroy everything (or just the jedi), conguer the galaxy or even just be the leader of themselves, they never truly had an ultimate goal (xept for palpatine) and would most often just destroy themselves, they are pretty much the reason they lost everytime, sure they had strength, but it was all wasted when they started fighting eachother. he also feels that they are imposters of him and his men, so he despises them even more. dont make the fact that you love the sith and my character hates them the reason you hate his existence.
1. I know your character's personality, powers and more. I read it trough. I wouldnt file a complaint without having read everything. I also made it quite clear that the fleet did NOT bother me.
2. The reason I dislike him, is because he is as powerful as he is. Even though it is in his personality not to use all that power, he will be the role as a God among mortals. If he ever wants to kill someone, he will do so with a simple gesture.
3. His knowledge in the force, is as you said, 10. Not even Nihilus, Sidious or any other force user in the history of Starwars was a 10. Nihilus could annhiliate an entire planet. Sidious could open wormholes. Their strenght was not in how "potential" their force powers were, but that they knew how to use it. Him being a 10 in knowledge and an 11 in potential (On a 10 scale) makes him pretty much a God. A person in his presence, no matter the power, only lives because he wants it that way.
4. I wouldnt have minded him, nor his 2nd in command if they hadnt been so darn powerful. Even if they wont use their powers often or something like that, they still have it, and THAT is what I do not like. To be involved with a character that could end every piece of resistance with utter ease. My character does have a huge difficulty with authority, and since she wouldnt ever join your character and likely, if the case took its course, attack him, she would die in her first charge. If she wouldnt, it'd be because the character would be holding back.
I am not interested in being part of something like that. That is why I will be doing my darnest to never ever interact with him, because Banis characteristics wouldnt allow me to do anything else than to strike him. I said it before, and I say it again.
I do not approve, but I will remain in the RP because JR asks me to.
Now, about that skill scale system.
1 means he knows almost nothing of what he can, 10 means he’s learned everything he can possibly learn
10 is that he has learnt everything there is to know about the force. Then 9 must be that he is almost fully knowledgeable in the force. Which puts Sidious, Nihilus, Plagueis and the rest of the Jedi and Sith in history 8 or below. None of the mentioned- None of those whom have existed has even been close to know all there is about the force.
Your leader and 2nd in command both have 10 in "skill", and that makes them entirely unstoppable.
Complete knowledge in the force, and an 11 in potentials will make your character a GOD. He'll be a master of life and death. A character, a ship, or even a planet- the single reason that they live is because he wants it.
i thought i changed the econd character to just above normal, and my character is far from a god (although he does think it) there is a very easy way to kill him, and he doesn't control reality. but i made it 10 because after 25,000 years you would pretty much know everything, but if you wish i will change it
and what is your obsession with the sith and sith lords OF? i dont think you have ever mentioned any force users other than sith, and you insist that Sidious, Nihilus, Plagueis are the greatest (thats from you using them as examples as how its impossible to have knowledge of the force higher than 9) but all we really know about Pagueis is that he was muun and sidious' master, and very little is known about Nihilus aswell. however they were all clearly strong they were all extremely flawed aswell
Originally posted by The big EH
i thought i changed the econd character to just above normal, and my character is far from a god (although he does think it) there is a very easy way to kill him, and he doesn't control reality. but i made it 10 because after 25,000 years you would pretty much know everything, but if you wish i will change itand what is your obsession with the sith and sith lords OF? i dont think you have ever mentioned any force users other than sith, and you insist that Sidious, Nihilus, Plagueis are the greatest (thats from you using them as examples as how its impossible to have knowledge of the force higher than 9) but all we really know about Pagueis is that he was muun and sidious' master, and very little is known about Nihilus aswell. however they were all clearly strong they were all extremely flawed aswell
1. A very easy way to kill him? His body construct is that of Darth Sion, his power in the force is larger than anyone in history and he has a fleet with over 500 warships (Yeah, primitive, I know). The only way to kill him is if he wishes to be killed, or if he would be holding back. Elsewise he could live forever.
If you think 10 in knowledge is the only way for one as old as 27.000 years to make sense, then sure. Think so. Perhaps it is possible. That doesnt mean I approve with it. No matter what you say, he is a God. Maybe you do not realise how much power he actually has if we are to judge it by the scale system. He may think he is a God, and with all the power he has, he has all right to think so.
2. Sigh. The reason I never mention Jedi when it comes to discussions revolving actual power and knowledge, is because a Jedi is limited. A Jedi is restricted to avoid the knowledge of the dark side. The Sith Lords I have brought up, I have not brought up because they are the "greatest", which you seem to think is the reason. I have brought them up for a number of different reasons. A Sith about the light unlike a Jedi about the dark do not avoid it or restrict themselves from it. In order to have absolute knowledge, or to even get close- or to master the force at another level, you cannot be a Jedi.
- Darth Sidious have had signs of future sight. He has been able to form force storms. He withheld the knowledge how to live forever. He was an absolute genious. The reason I bring him up in my examples is not due to his powers, but due to what arts of the force he has developed and how he master them.
- Darth Plagueis I have brought up because he had learnt how to prevent death. He could save people from dying. This is one thing that prove the power of the force.
- Darth Nihilus I thought should've been an obvious example. He was able to consume the force around him. He annihilated an entire planet. He had so much power in the force that it litteraly almost blinded him. All he saw was the force, and the power it brought him.
- Darth Sion leads into another path, and I guess I should've included him in the discussion. The force held his body together, making him virtually indestructable.
Now .... Combine those four Sith Lords, and the unique and vast knowledge of all the other force users in history of Star Wars, and you'll have the power of your leader. Then enhance all these powers to beyond comprehension, due to your leaders 60% brain, making him comprehend things that no normal human could ever do. He does not know all there is about the force. He knows even more than that. He would be able to use it in ways no force user has ever been able to.
Do you see now my disliking in his extreme power?
your clearly not as intelligent as you thought if you cant figure out how somebody held together by the force can be defeated fairly easily, and it's most likely that sidious never had foresight, as he had a secret order thing called The Emporers Eyes (similar to Hand) and their only purpose of existense was to use the force to glimpse into the future, thats how he knew about the Vong invasion.
and it's most-likely that he never knew anything about preserving life with the force but just told anakin that to twist him, he was intellegent, just more-so in manipulaton
You are ignoring my point. I'm not bringing those examples up to fame the characters. If Sidious could or couldnt see into the future is insignificant with my point, which was that force users can see into the future. If or if not Plagueis could prevent people from dying is also insignificant, since manipulation of midiclorians isnt "fiction" for one that know exactly how the force works. The names I have brought up means absolutely nothing in this discussion.
Not as intelligent as I thought? Sorry to burst your bubble, but I never thought myself as a very intelligent person. Your right that it isnt impossible to destroy one that is held together by the force, but it is far tougher than destroying a normal human. That cannot be denied, and even if your character was pure human- he still would be unstoppable unless he desired otherwise or was holding back.
In order to kill all whom try to kill your character, all he has to do is clench his fist and the attacker will die (No matter if it's a Jedi/Sith or a Star Destroyer). The one way that could've been a possibility is not possible since he is as powerful as he is. It is impossible to sneak up on him, due to his precognition, future sight and force senses.