Originally posted by thadarknite84
It started from the games, I don't consider the comics or the movies canon with the story of the games. But if you want to use them, why not bring up the fight in SF V where Ken had a hard time with Vega in the cage. Because if that was Batman or Cap, it would not go down the same way at all.
SF II V, the anime series?
Originally posted by thadarknite84that is a super attack, its called SOMERSAULT JUSTICE.
First of all, that is not Ryu/Ken and that is a super power attack. There are no super power attacks allowed is this battle. That's not real PHYSICAL strength.This is real power without the use of chi
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Originally posted by Battlehammer
Me not understanding? Are you such a dolt that you actaully think that there not using chi the entire time?Every swing, every kick is powered by chi.
super attack uses chi , but chi does not mean it a super attack.
If so I guess ever move shang-chi makes is a super move sinces you know he using chi to amp his abilities.
Originally posted by Mindset
You don't have to be Hulk level strength to break off a portion of a cliff...No it's not DC or Marvel when have I ever said it was, but there are definitely strong people in SF, Akuma was punching down Submarines and trains at the bottom of the ocean.
It's nice that you play games, I suggest you play them again so you know more about their moves, also there are movies and comics that are included into this, not just the games.
I'm in no dream world, you are ignorant to the ability of SF characters, but you act as if you know what you're talking about when we both know that isn't true. If anything you need to get off Batman's nuts, it's apparent from your rants about him in the Cap vs. Batman thread that you are a fanboy.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
And I see that you can't read well. What I said is that they can't use SUPER CHARGED attacks. Hell even Batman and Cap use their life force in each blow. But in that scan, Nash wouldn't use the weak version of that attack against M.Bison and expect to do any real damage to him.
No I can read quite fine thank you.
and you did say "super attacks", but now your trying to change it in order for your love crush batman to actually be able to win how sweet.
Originally posted by thadarknite84No weapons or gadgets. And no super attacks
Batman and capt can't do it to a level of even shang-chi let a lone SF level.
Originally posted by Master-Borg
that's not true. Only special moves (fireball, dragon punch, sonic boom, etc) require chi.A jump kick or a jab does not require chi.
Actually chi for them is lifeforce if I'm not mistaken. So everything they do requires chi, but they can focus it to increase their strength or infuse it into attacks, such as shoryuken.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
SF V is not canon. It's some weird rendition of it. And 2nd, Batman would die against Vega in a cage match without his tools. Vega is normally really fast and a top tier fighter, but he fights best in a cage.
Originally posted by thadarknite84
I don't think so. Vega is not defeating batman in or out of a cage. You act like Batman can't claim a cage just as good. Batman has gone up against worse than Vega, look up Batman's Rogue gallery. And your forgetting just who the superior ninja is. And that's Batman.
I think you missed the key point, and that would be that it is not canon.
batman's got leopard blow 😏
like i told Battlehammer a while earlier, bats and cap can take hits from wonderwoman, hulk, croc, grundy etc and have faced several metahumans in their lives. to make it worse they have gone toe-to-toe with enhanced beings like logan and spiderman for example. in H2H Cap pretty much had the upperhand against Spidey in Civil War until spidey started using his new tentacles. on then there was the time when Cap was evading deadpool's attacks without even looking at him. they guys have some real skill.
amping up chi levels? sure, ryu and ken can do that. aint nobody here (except TP) who thinks either side is in for an easy win. but it should be pointed out that even with amped chi the greatest feat ryu has of strength is punching a guy several feet away (he had powered his fists with dark hadou in SFA anime). that level of power is not new for Cap or Bats. heck i bet Cap can smack people a few feat away himself considering he can bunch around 500kgs.
like i said, this is a hell of a fight. i'm only giving it to Caps and Bats based on their versatility, experience and damage soak. oh and the greatest adv they have is that ryu and ken can't do projectiles.
Bats and Cap win 6/10
*slaps TP for no reason*
~Sado
Originally posted by Sado22
batman's got leopard blow 😏like i told Battlehammer a while earlier, bats and cap can take hits from wonderwoman, hulk, croc, grundy etc and have faced several metahumans in their lives. to make it worse they have gone toe-to-toe with enhanced beings like logan and spiderman for example. in H2H Cap pretty much had the upperhand against Spidey in Civil War until spidey started using his new tentacles. on then there was the time when Cap was evading deadpool's attacks without even looking at him. they guys have some real skill.
amping up chi levels? sure, ryu and ken can do that. aint nobody here (except TP) who thinks either side is in for an easy win. but it should be pointed out that even with amped chi the greatest feat ryu has of strength is punching a guy several feet away (he had powered his fists with dark hadou in SFA anime). that level of power is not new for Cap or Bats. heck i bet Cap can smack people a few feat away himself considering he can bunch around 500kgs.like i said, this is a hell of a fight. i'm only giving it to Caps and Bats based on their versatility, experience and damage soak. oh and the greatest adv they have is that ryu and ken can't do projectiles.
Bats and Cap win 6/10
*slaps TP for no reason*~Sado
Are you referring to the super strong Cyborg from SFA the movie? If so, Ryu never gave him an uppercut, that was Ken with his chi infused shoryuken. Ryu killed it with a dark hadouken one time and with a regular one the second.
And neither side has projectiles.
Originally posted by Sado22
nope. i'm talking about the time when Ryu fought some masked goons twoards the end of the movie. he wtfpwned them with his barehands but his strongest punch only sent the guy hurling a few feet back.~Sado
Are you talking about SF Alpha the movie?
Because he did not use his strongest punch on any of the normal guys and he definitely didn't use the dark hadou against them
Decided to do it anyways.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=466251&pagenumber=3
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I did the figures based on what it would take to sink an island... For it to sink the way it did, it would take at the very least 112 Megatonnes PSI for Akuma to sink Gokentou all the way to the ocean floor while simultaneously causing volcanic and earthquake activety.I don't know much about Lobo, but if he fought Supes to an even match, that combined with Superman's punching power twells me that Lobo would survive far worse than even high level Megatonne punches... Supes knocked Lobo into Earth Orbit with an uppercut... and was completely unharmed.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Because the sea of Japan isn't that deep, and for Gokentou's highest peak to sink beneath the waves would take just about that much...Anyways, there's 3 distinct possabilities,
#1: Akuma pulverised the island itself so badly that it flattened itself against the sea bed = roughly 80 to 120 megatonnes.
#2: the blow actually shiffted the sea floor surface and the island sank into a fissure in the bedrock = 100 to 140 megatonnes.
#3: The blow actually casued a massive shift in the tectonic plates causing a volcanic disruption, the island sinks into a magma flow = 150 to 240 megatonnes.
I am inclined to side with #3, as evidenced by the quaking and volcanic ativety that was present, not to mention that japans entire east coast is a huge volcanic faultline. However, I would stress that it would be the low end number (no more than 175 megatonnes).
The scans in question. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/snes/d/sfa2.htm
And we know this ending happened, it's referenced in Street Fighter Alpha 2&3 and SF 3.
