Nosgoth vs. Hyrule

Originally posted by General Kaliero
The large and rather fatal error of your logic being that the fated three already have the Triforce. All they have to do is be near each other, and the Triforce will be manifested, ready for wishing upon by any one of them. With dimensional power he could close the space instantly and if his power over time concept succeeds or equels Naryu time concept she created he can use the fact he can close the space and then use his mind power to take the objects, how fast in the mind are the Goddesses?

And you seem to be missing the point of the Goddesses. Nayru in particular created time in relation to Hyrule, so anyone attempting to wield time against her or her land is likely to be halted in that attempt.

Din as well could set the very land of Hyrule against Nosgoth's forces.

No thats not the break in my logic, i know they are likely to have the pieces, but the chances they can wish upon it, speak, or even try an fuse them together is unlikely considering Kain would be upon them before time, mind or understanding could keep up with it.

She created time, but can she control it? for example Kain created many things but he cannot command all of them simply because he created them (although his sons take orders from him anyway)

The very land? it wouldnt be very useful against for example the Elder God who is not touchable by their side, yet he can touch objects, he can smash through Hyrules world in an instant killing everything and destroying everything that is not the Goddesses for sure

The Goddesses will be the only thing in this fight imo on Hyrule side and if their just as powerful in actual destructive encounters as Elder God would be, then they could likely destroy most of Nosgoths forces, leaving Elder God, maybe Raziel, Kain ofcourse and perhaps some Hylden

Originally posted by Csdabest
lol. Reason why I dont like Kain games or Zelda Games. To much godlyness. What ever happen to the good ol' skill. Sword versus sword combat. Gosh

LOK does have some good ol' sword combat when it comes down to the younger kains

Ganondorf would beat Kain's ass.

haha yeh.......in his wet dreams, if there were no Goddesses Kain would likely solo Hyrule, ganondorf and link will prob go down first

Sure he would. I'm not gonna debate the guy that thinks Kain can beat Galactus.

whre did I say that lol.....but you cant debate at all it seems so it doesnt matter, so your foolery is unrequired

least of all gannondorf is worth anything, as if any of them could even touch kain absurdity

Gannondorf is a joke. Is only hope of winning any battles is his claim to ONLY LIGHT ARROWS AND MASTER SWORD CAN HURT HIM.He slow with alright skill and just really strong. I ****ing hate Kain with a passion that can nail me up on a cross. But i think Kain will Own Gannondorf. if people dont go OH NO ONLY LIGHT ARROWS AND MASTER SWORD CAN HURT HIM

Kain doesnt need to hurt gannondorf at all to defeat him, just freeze him with a time bolt, defeating someone is not the same as killing them afterall 😄

Originally posted by Csdabest
Gannondorf is a joke. Is only hope of winning any battles is his claim to ONLY LIGHT ARROWS AND MASTER SWORD CAN HURT HIM.He slow with alright skill and just really strong. I ****ing hate Kain with a passion that can nail me up on a cross. But i think Kain will Own Gannondorf. if people dont go OH NO ONLY LIGHT ARROWS AND MASTER SWORD CAN HURT HIM

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Slow huh? I guess you call jumping 50 feet in the air instantly to dodge Light Arrows is slow? I guess you call having a sword in his chest and dashing with great speed and killing a Sage with a punch is slow? I guess you think that Ganon when he rushed Link and knocked him out was slow? Oh, and Ganon is supremely physically more powerful than Kain. Alright skill? How about more skill in 20 years of his life than Kain has had in all of his, and Ganon is about as old as Kain. Ganon tanked many Master Sword slashes and Light Arrows and survived having his head impaled by the Master Sword. You wanna know the best part about that feat? HE DIDN'T HAVE THE TRIFORCE OF POWER WHICH GRANTS HIS INVULNERABILITY. I suggest you actually, I don't know, LEARN about these characters before you debate against them. Ganon turns Kain into a bodiless soul, which isn't killing him, it is merely incapacitating him.

physically more powerful? ime not sure about that, Kain sitll lifts tonnes, can tank sharp blades that can slice through rock easily hitting into him at the force of several tonness without even feeling a scratch. More skill in 20 years? har har, good one.....Kain is over 10k years old so how is Ganon as old, never heard that one. Nah, Kain has his shield up, Ganon doesnt know whats going on as Kain ports behind him and fires a time bolt in his face, Ganon stands there like a statue motionless wishing he had got on his knees.

While it wasn't evident in OoT, WW and TP both showed that Ganondorf was surprisingly fast, coupled with unprecedented physical strength and endurance. When he killed a Sage in TP, he did so after having been impaled through the heart with a holy sword, and with only a single punch. In both WW and TP he is beyond competent as a swordsman, in two different fighting styles.

Not to mention his great ability as a sorceror. He can summon copies of himself with ease, has powerful magic attacks, and has shown the ability to possess others with his spirit. He was still able to cast magic on himself to save himself from death after being impaled through the forehead with the Master Sword.

And of course, he can unleash his bestial form of Ganon, who can teleport, use magic, and is even stronger.

And all of that is just Ganondorf himself, ignoring Link, Zelda, and the Goddesses.

impaled? Kains heart was completly ripped free wihch means much more to Kain than it would to Gannon if his heart was torn out. Or so it should.

Bu all of those will be easy meat for Kain except the Goddesses, who I would like to see the actual power of, if they can only create but not control or destroy then they will not be so useful

But Ganondorf, Link and Zelda could be dead/defeated within the first seconds by Kain alone using time bolts, soul destroying and dimensional teleportation

Together they are omnipotent.

lame, then i ask for them to be removed, otherwise it may as well be the LT vs LOK which is a stupid fight, what do you mean together? you mean in eachothers presence or combining their power?

Together they are omnipotent, with eachother present or something like that I guess.

well omnipotence should be left out of threads imo, it just means the opposing team instantly wins unless there was an omnipotent being there which there is not

Originally posted by Burning thought
well omnipotence should be left out of threads imo, it just means the opposing team instantly wins unless there was an omnipotent being there which there is not

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Hello hypocrisy. Your bids for Kain are certainly making him sound omnipotent, causing me to severely doubt the value of this thread.

Kain is by no means or bounds omnipotent, he may seem it to the Hyrule characters apart from the Goddesses, but he is nothing on omnipotence who can do everything and anything, imo beings who are truelly omnipotent, are unfair, Kain is not, imo the thread starter should specify Kain before the end of Defiance, and remove omnipotent things like the completed Triforce, and the Goddesses, remove Elder God, and then this will be a fight worth having imho

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Hello hypocrisy. Your bids for Kain are certainly making him sound omnipotent, causing me to severely doubt the value of this thread.

I think baiting is against the rules, or at least saying that is close to an insult due to the fact you are targeting me and trying to put me down

unfortuatley, you compare a spiritual soul to physical size which is nearly as bad, but stop feeling sad and sorry for yourself by trying to grab straws from 1/2 years ago, as Darth said "evolution" is true

unfortuatley youve yet to experiance and evolve past the level of straw manning an argument because you have none of your own 😄

Originally posted by Burning thought
I think baiting is against the rules, or at least saying that is close to an insult due to the fact you are targeting me and trying to put me down

unfortuatley, you compare a spiritual soul to physical size which is nearly as bad, but stop feeling sad and sorry for yourself by trying to grab straws from 1/2 years ago, as Darth said "evolution" is true

unfortuatley youve yet to experiance and evolve past the level of straw manning an argument because you have none of your own 😄