Originally posted by Dgw2007Cause as strong fast and durable as he is. He is no Superman, Thor, or Hercules physically.
why do you think he lose if he is so strong fast and durable
He often gets portrayed as close but he never quite gets there. And Superman has many other options besides Physical fighting even though he would eventually dominate Namor in that regard as well.
Originally posted by Newjak
Cause as strong fast and durable as he is. He is no Superman, Thor, or Hercules physically.He often gets portrayed as close but he never quite gets there. And Superman has many other options besides Physical fighting even though he would eventually dominate Namor in that regard as well.
This isn't Namor. This is 33,554,432xNamor
Originally posted by Dgw2007
he gets strnger faster and more durable the longer he is in water and when the battle start he has been there 25 years
What exactly is the point of a fight in which the rules are:
Who would win in a fight, Namor or Superman? But, for this fight, Namor is infinitely stronger, faster, and more durable than Superman. And apparently, according to your earlier stipulation has "no weaknesses."
I mean.... huh?
And just out of curiousity, why are you going out of your way to be a fanboy for a character that you don't even know the most basic iota about... like that a major part of Namor's history was that he was in World War Two... and is a great deal older than twenty five.
Originally posted by Soljer
Namor's strength, speed and durability double every year he spends in the water. He's been in the water twenty five years. Meaning that this is Superman vs. 33,554,432xNamor in strength, speed and durability.Jesus Christ.
Good math. I'm confused though (maybe I need to read all the other posts). Does Namor get a 25 year prepping head start in the water before he faces Superman where his strength doubles every year? If so, then assuming 100-120 tons is his water strength then he can now basically lift about 4 billion tons. John Byrne's Superman (the weak one) was shown to lift about 40billion tons when he lifted that mountain (some say it was heavier than that). But some say that Namor is stronger than 120tons in water as he has some feats that is "supposedly" greater. But I say that nearly all characters have feats that is greater than what they are supposed to be at. For example, Spider-man (when he was class 10) has shown more than 40ton strength so many times it is a joke. Yet people take him as class 10 (and not class 60 or more) without argument. So for that reason I'm taking Namor as a 120tonner (slightly greater than Thing) without argument. Thus Superman is still at least 10times stronger (assuming the weak John Byrne Superman). Also current superman can fly at multiples the speed of light (traveling light years in moments) so I guessing that is still more than 33554432times faster than Namor's original mach speed (I didn't do the math here yet).
Anyway this thread proves how clearly it is spite for Superman to face a regular Namor. And thus Namor needs an insane upgrade in order to have a good chance of beating Superman. To be fair, IMO, this Namor gets 4/10 against Superman (even though Superman has many other powers=more versatile).
Originally posted by h1a8
Good math. I'm confused though (maybe I need to read all the other posts). Does Namor get a 25 year prepping head start in the water before he faces Superman where his strength doubles every year? If so, then assuming 100-120 tons is his water strength then he can now basically lift about 4 billion tons. John Byrne's Superman (the weak one) was shown to lift about 40billion tons when he lifted that mountain (some say it was heavier than that). But some say that Namor is stronger than 120tons in water as he has some feats that is "supposedly" greater. But I say that nearly all characters have feats that is greater than what they are supposed to be at. For example, Spider-man (when he was class 10) has shown more than 40ton strength so many times it is a joke. Yet people take him as class 10 (and not class 60 or more) without argument. So for that reason I'm taking Namor as a 120tonner (slightly greater than Thing) without argument. Thus Superman is still at least 10times stronger (assuming the weak John Byrne Superman). Also current superman can fly at multiples the speed of light (traveling light years in moments) so I guessing that is still more than 33554432times faster than Namor's original mach speed (I didn't do the math here yet).Anyway this thread proves how clearly it is spite for Superman to face a regular Namor. And thus Namor needs an insane upgrade in order to have a good chance of beating Superman. To be fair, IMO, this Namor gets 4/10 against Superman (even though Superman has many other powers=more versatile).
Yes, he gets a twenty five year head start.
And Namor's lifted seventy thousand tons - minimum. Hence my earlier calculations of a couple trillion tons. He's also hit escape velocity before, hence my calculation of twelve hundred times c.
Originally posted by SoljerHe has also while on his back cause earthquakes capable of toppling entire headquarters and shaking an entire island. By only slamming his fist into the ground. 😛
Yes, he gets a twenty five year head start.And Namor's lifted seventy thousand tons - minimum. Hence my earlier calculations of a couple trillion tons. He's also hit escape velocity before, hence my calculation of twelve hundred times c.
Originally posted by Soljer
Greater than trillions of tons? That isn't speculation (Spectre/Maggeddon)Faster than twelve hundred c? That isn't pure speculation? (Crossing galaxies to save Kyle's ass)
Originally posted by RorschachHow fast would you say that is? It takes light 25 years, it takes Superman a few panels.
More of Superman traveling FTLSuperman flew from near Vega to Metropolis.
Vega is located 25.3 light-years away from Earth
I'll give you a hint.
Light travels over 5 trillion miles in a lightyear.
